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 Are all Muscidae with bent M in Muscinae?
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| John Carr |
Posted on 06-04-2011 21:27
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Are all Muscidae with M bent towards R5 in subfamily Muscinae? I have seen statements that this is true as well as a counterexample. I think the counterexample was <i>Stomoxys</i> outside of Muscinae, which may not reflect current classification. |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 06-04-2011 21:51
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No, Graphomya, Myospila, some Brontaea (Gymnodia), all in Mydaeinae subfamily, have also a bent vein M, but the anepimeron (pteropleuron) is bare. Stomoxys and related are sometimes classified in their own subfamily (Stomoxyinae), otherwise in the tribe Stomoxyini of the Muscinae. Edited by Stephane Lebrun on 06-04-2011 22:08 Stephane. |
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| John Carr |
Posted on 06-04-2011 22:13
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Thanks. Are all the Muscidae with strongly elbowed M as in Musca in Muscinae, or are those in multiple subfamilies as well? I suppose this must be a character that has evolved several times in Muscidae, but not at all in the other muscoid families. |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 06-04-2011 22:26
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Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
For nearctic and palaearctic muscid, and as far as I know, the strongly bent M is only in Muscinae.
Stephane. |
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| John Carr |
Posted on 15-03-2012 17:06
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Super Administrator Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 10422 Joined: 22.10.10 |
I recently read NIHEI, S. S. and DE CARVALHO, C. J. B. (2007), Phylogeny and classification of Muscini (Diptera, Muscidae). Zoological Journal of the Linnean Society, 149: 493–532. doi: 10.1111/j.1096-3642.2007.00252.x According to their character matrix, among Muscini the Musca-like elbow in M occurs only in Musca and Neomyia. I have also noticed that Oestroidea often have M forked, while the bend is always simple in Muscidae I have seen. |
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