Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
 Heleomyzidae
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| Ben Hamers |
Posted on 30-12-2010 19:50
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Member Location: Heerlen ( Holland ) Posts: 739 Joined: 16.12.04 |
December 2010, Southern Limburg, NL First thought was Eccoptomera, but arista seems a bit short. A rather big fly, the size of an average S. stercoraria (male). Ben Ben Hamers attached the following image:  [42.65Kb] |
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| Ben Hamers |
Posted on 30-12-2010 19:51
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Member Location: Heerlen ( Holland ) Posts: 739 Joined: 16.12.04 |
Same fly, other view
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| Ben Hamers |
Posted on 30-12-2010 19:51
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Member Location: Heerlen ( Holland ) Posts: 739 Joined: 16.12.04 |
Third view
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 30-12-2010 20:27
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
For me (I chose my words carefully) it appears a Schroederella iners, but I won't be surprised when Andrzej is correcting me (again). I'd would like to see the prosternum
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| Ben Hamers |
Posted on 30-12-2010 20:43
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Member Location: Heerlen ( Holland ) Posts: 739 Joined: 16.12.04 |
Prosternum for Ruud
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 30-12-2010 20:46
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
that is the Propleural bristle. No, I mean the prosternum, which may be found between the first pair of coxae, so in anterior, not lateral
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 30-12-2010 20:48
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
But, Ben, please wait for Andrzej. When he sees the animal, we will know for sure what species. Because if he doesn't know, nobody knows.
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 30-12-2010 21:01
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
prosternum http://www.dipter...p;sortby=P  seen as the fly was in front of us, and near the first pair of coxae, between them. From: Geller-Grimm.  Habitus (partial) for Asilidae, but shows clearly the relative position of the prosternum. Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 30-12-2010 21:42 |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 30-12-2010 21:04
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
very thoughtful of you, Jorge!
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| Ben Hamers |
Posted on 30-12-2010 21:16
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Member Location: Heerlen ( Holland ) Posts: 739 Joined: 16.12.04 |
Thanks Jorge and sorry Ruud for my ignorance. I should have digged myself into the snow to make such a picture, or the fly should have jumped in the air, which she did actually, but that went to fast to make a decent picture. Ben Ben Hamers attached the following image:  [26.79Kb] |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 30-12-2010 21:22
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
Come on, don't bother. I like to help. This makes diptera.info so much fun. I am sure Jorge thinks just the same. If I have to worry about all the mistakes I made, OMG, I think it is better not to visit the site again.  cheers, Ruud ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 31-12-2010 02:10
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2433 Joined: 05.01.06 |
Big fly and well bristled ! Ruud ID is correct ! No doubt. S. iners
dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Environmental Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 31-12-2010 08:58
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
Gott sei dank
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 31-12-2010 09:26
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
BTW, Ben, Schroederella iners has not been often recorded from the Netherlands. So the fact that you were able to make a photo in our country of this beautiful insect is worth a compliment!
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| Ben Hamers |
Posted on 31-12-2010 10:05
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Member Location: Heerlen ( Holland ) Posts: 739 Joined: 16.12.04 |
Thanks a lot to Andrzej, Ruud and Jorge. Ruud, It seemed not to be rare on the Kunderberg, I saw several of them. Ben |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 31-12-2010 14:11
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
once, in Hungary, I collected 3 on the same spot. I considered it very special.
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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