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 jewel like Brazilian harvestman-Heteromitobates discolor (Conyleptidae)
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| bonitin |
Posted on 06-12-2010 19:18
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 Member Location: Gent, Belgium Posts: 348 Joined: 11.10.07 |
A beautiful spider, the prettiest I have ever met! 21st January 2010 rainforest Paraty-Brazil on a rock in the river. Size without its very long legs was about 1cm if I remember well.. Thank you! Myriam 
bonitin attached the following image:  [139.75Kb] Edited by bonitin on 02-01-2011 23:37 |
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| bonitin |
Posted on 06-12-2010 19:19
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Member Location: Gent, Belgium Posts: 348 Joined: 11.10.07 |
with legs..
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 06-12-2010 19:38
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
Not a spider, but an harvestman. Possibly Gonyleptidae
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| bonitin |
Posted on 06-12-2010 19:56
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Member Location: Gent, Belgium Posts: 348 Joined: 11.10.07 |
Oh thank you Ruud for the quick response! I' didn't realise that Harvestmen are not spiders! |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 31-12-2010 23:09
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
this is really a very crazy Opiliones. |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 31-12-2010 23:19
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
crazy? Fantastic. The Gonyleptidae are insane animals, but there are so many other weird looking harvestmen in the tropics. ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| bonitin |
Posted on 01-01-2011 11:39
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Member Location: Gent, Belgium Posts: 348 Joined: 11.10.07 |
A fantastic creature indeed! It is Goniosoma discolor -Conyleptidae! Janet Rowley (blowave) has found its ID!  I've changed the title..Do the males also have 'boxing gloves' like with spiders? Edited by bonitin on 01-01-2011 16:48 |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 01-01-2011 11:45
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
no, not at all. Harvestmen have a completely different reproduction system. The have a penis, which is extremely long. For studying it, which is often important, you have to "cut" them out of their body.
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| bonitin |
Posted on 01-01-2011 11:52
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Member Location: Gent, Belgium Posts: 348 Joined: 11.10.07 |
Thanks Ruud! Eeeeeekk that sounds horrible to do to the male harvestman !I have edited my previous post to put its ID. Edited by bonitin on 01-01-2011 11:54 |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 01-01-2011 12:10
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
The family Gonyleptidae is pretty huge. To be frank I do not know genus Goniosoma well. There are more than 20 species, that is described species. Maybe it is risky to say which species it is based on a photo, but, on the other hand, maybe it is not. I will ask it to some Brazilian friends.
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| bonitin |
Posted on 01-01-2011 15:16
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Member Location: Gent, Belgium Posts: 348 Joined: 11.10.07 |
Thanks Ruud, that would be great! I found a picture of another harvestman on another date, also on a rock in the river in the same area. It looks the same to me! bonitin attached the following image:  [150.63Kb] Edited by bonitin on 01-01-2011 15:21 |
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| blowave |
Posted on 01-01-2011 16:40
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 Member Location: LINCOLN, UK Posts: 3151 Joined: 27.06.07 |
Ruud, here's the link I found this one on, I did find another which was very similar but this one looked correct to me. There could of course be others which are very similar. Myriam, this one is in Gonyleptidae, it was another with the different subfamily I think. http://ecologia.i...to015.html http://cubits.org... |
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| bonitin |
Posted on 01-01-2011 16:51
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Member Location: Gent, Belgium Posts: 348 Joined: 11.10.07 |
Thanks Janet, I have corrected that! |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 01-01-2011 16:52
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
It looks quite similar indeed. But I put the photo on the maillist for Opilionid lovers. I will let you know the result
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 02-01-2011 20:24
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
Dear Miriam, the correct name is Heteromitobates discolor. Marcio Dasilva told me this. He made a revision of the Goniosomatinae. He told furthermore that this species is common in the neighbourhood of Paraty in Brazil. cheers, Ruud ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| blowave |
Posted on 02-01-2011 20:28
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Member Location: LINCOLN, UK Posts: 3151 Joined: 27.06.07 |
So the species is correct, but it has had a genus name change. Thanks Ruud, it's good to have friends in the right places!
http://cubits.org... |
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| bonitin |
Posted on 02-01-2011 23:36
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Member Location: Gent, Belgium Posts: 348 Joined: 11.10.07 |
Great ! Thanks so much Ruud for asking your friend!Heteromitobates discolor it will be then! Have to change the title once more! Indeed its nice to have friends in the good place like Janet says! |
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