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 10mm-Conopidae, Oct, 14th -> Leopoldius brevirostris/signatus male)
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| ThorstenRoeder |
Posted on 14-10-2010 20:14
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Member Location: Posts: 126 Joined: 11.10.10 |
Dear forum users. This 10mm-Conopidae was on Hedera helix blossoms in my garden today, SW-Germany, rhine valley, 40 kms south of Mainz. I am not experienced, so I have problems with the key. Conops should not fly that late, but maybe in rhine valley it`s possible. Furthermore, the snout seems too long for Leopoldius. If it`s Conops, then silverish stripes on thorax side and yellow scutellum lead to C. scutellatum. But where is the longitudinal black stripe on face above antenna ground? My fly is completely black there (?) If there are no silverish stripes on thorax side, because, what seems so on my 3rd photo, is just sunlight, then there stays only C. flavipes, because C. vesicularis is much larger (14-18mm). But my fly has no broad black ring on upper half of femurs. So I am really confused now.  . Maybe it`s neither Conops nor Leopoldius (?)Thanks in advance for taking a look at this. Best regards Thorsten ThorstenRoeder attached the following image:  [19.41Kb] Edited by ThorstenRoeder on 24-02-2013 12:17 |
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| ThorstenRoeder |
Posted on 14-10-2010 20:15
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...second photo, just 20 KB...
ThorstenRoeder attached the following image:  [17.14Kb] Edited by ThorstenRoeder on 14-10-2010 20:16 |
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| ThorstenRoeder |
Posted on 14-10-2010 20:17
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...third photo, just 20 KB...
ThorstenRoeder attached the following image:  [15.87Kb] |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 14-10-2010 20:42
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
This is weird. When I looked at the photo's I thought first of C. ceriaeformis, because of the typical shape of the abdomen. Also crazy late for this species. But I can't see the typical mouthparts, so is it Leopoldius? I don't think capitatum, but brevirostris? If so, oef, I would like to have it in my collection.
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 14-10-2010 20:43
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
This is weird. When I looked at the photo's I thought first of C. ceriaeformis, because of the typical shape of the abdomen. Also crazy late for this species. But I can't see the typical mouthparts, so is it Leopoldius? I don't think capitatum, but brevirostris? If so, oef, I would like to have it in my collection.
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| ThorstenRoeder |
Posted on 16-10-2010 18:57
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Member Location: Posts: 126 Joined: 11.10.10 |
Thank you very much for your answer! And what do you think, as location is rhine valley, concerning appearance of the southern species C. silaceus or C. vitellinus? C. silaceus because of comparison with photos here: "http://aramel.free.fr/INSECTES15terter-2.shtml" and C. vitellinus because of the oval dark spots on femur3 at my photo 2. Best regards, Thorsten |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 16-10-2010 20:03
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Leopoldius sp. it is. There are no Conops like this with such proboscis (very short) |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 16-10-2010 22:41
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
Yes, it is great, a Conopid in october. I did not collect any this year, honestly. And this is a Leopoldius, even more special.
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| Mark van Veen |
Posted on 17-10-2010 08:24
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 Member Location: Zeist, Netherlands Posts: 145 Joined: 12.05.04 |
A Leopoldius reaching out for food, as in the first photo, stretches its tongue. It is L. brevirostris/signatus, a male. The tongue seems to be blackish (at least at the end), which suggests L. brevirostris. By the way, the late flowering Hedera is a typical flower to find L. signatus in the Netherlands.
Edited by Mark van Veen on 17-10-2010 08:24 |
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| ThorstenRoeder |
Posted on 19-10-2010 17:19
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Member Location: Posts: 126 Joined: 11.10.10 |
Hello, thank you very much to all, who discussed this and thank you for suggestion result L. brevirostris. Snout-detail below has bad quality because of extreme enlargement, but the colours stay right, so snout on my photo is definitely blackish in parts. Best regards, Thorsten P.S.: Ruud, you wrote: "I would like to have it in my collection". I guess, you certainly mean the fly himself. Sorry, this is impossible, because I just take pictures and don`t collect the animals. But anyone, who would like to get one of the photos of this Leopoldius, though quality is really not perfect, can certainly get the original in an e-mail. ThorstenRoeder attached the following image:  [101.92Kb] Edited by ThorstenRoeder on 19-10-2010 17:41 |
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