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 Chironomidae Cricotopus?
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| blowave |
Posted on 13-10-2010 19:37
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 Member Location: LINCOLN, UK Posts: 3151 Joined: 27.06.07 |
Hello, 8th October, over water, my garden (near the Ivy!) near Lincoln UK. Male was around 7mm. I have found a very old photo of Cricotopus sylvestris on bioimages which looks like the female. I usually see a red lettering warning on this site if the photo is not a confirmed specimen. http://www.bioima...p54652.php But, on bugguide the US site, there is one with the same name which has just a spot rather than a band on T4 http://bugguide.n...iew/245295 The identifier of that one is someone who has been studying aquatic insects for over 35 years! http://bugguide.n.../view/4507 So, any comments?  Janet  2 pics.. I can crop closer if needed. blowave attached the following image:  [144.98Kb] http://cubits.org... |
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| blowave |
Posted on 13-10-2010 19:38
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Member Location: LINCOLN, UK Posts: 3151 Joined: 27.06.07 |
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| chironomus_1990 |
Posted on 13-10-2010 19:43
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Member Location: Ukraine/Kharkiv Posts: 41 Joined: 16.09.10 |
Dear blowave! Its look like exactly like Cricotopus! But without photo of male genitals? i cant say anything about species/// |
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| blowave |
Posted on 13-10-2010 20:07
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Member Location: LINCOLN, UK Posts: 3151 Joined: 27.06.07 |
Thank you chironomus! Hmm, I have cropped the genital area for a closer view but that I doubt will be sufficient? blowave attached the following image:  [56.75Kb] http://cubits.org... |
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| blowave |
Posted on 13-10-2010 20:08
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Member Location: LINCOLN, UK Posts: 3151 Joined: 27.06.07 |
crop 2
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| chironomus_1990 |
Posted on 15-10-2010 17:13
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Member Location: Ukraine/Kharkiv Posts: 41 Joined: 16.09.10 |
Looks like as a Cricotopus perniger! Wery dark tergites! |
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| blowave |
Posted on 15-10-2010 17:35
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Member Location: LINCOLN, UK Posts: 3151 Joined: 27.06.07 |
chironomus_1990 wrote: Looks like as a Cricotopus perniger! Wery dark tergites! How certain would you be of this? It is not listed as being present in the UK, but anything is possible! The nearest records are only just across the Channel.. http://www.faunae...on1=284356 Here is a list of the Cricotopus species listed for the UK.. http://www.dipter...hp?id=6374 Could any of those be similar to this one? http://cubits.org... |
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| chironomus_1990 |
Posted on 15-10-2010 18:26
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Member Location: Ukraine/Kharkiv Posts: 41 Joined: 16.09.10 |
I just found this spicies in Ukraine, biside this nearest founding was in Germany. I dont know all of those spicies by paticular foundings, but i still think about C.perniger |
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| chironomus_1990 |
Posted on 15-10-2010 18:27
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Member Location: Ukraine/Kharkiv Posts: 41 Joined: 16.09.10 |
I think its quite possible, but without superior wolsella i cant say certain. |
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| blowave |
Posted on 15-10-2010 18:49
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Member Location: LINCOLN, UK Posts: 3151 Joined: 27.06.07 |
Thank you for your input anyway. The Fauna Europea map shows records in Netherlands and Poland, Germany is between the two and you are to the east, I am to the west! Records are often not indicative of the true distribution, it would seem unreasonable to expect this species is confined to within borders of some countries! Oh well, no specimen gives no species name but I have the genus. p.s. I searched for 'wolsella' as I am not familiar with the word, I found it was in a pdf link from a Polish site but babelfish translator does not do Polish language.
Edited by blowave on 15-10-2010 18:50 http://cubits.org... |
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| chironomus_1990 |
Posted on 15-10-2010 18:57
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Member Location: Ukraine/Kharkiv Posts: 41 Joined: 16.09.10 |
Its appendeges of male genitalia, very small^) |
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| chironomus_1990 |
Posted on 15-10-2010 18:59
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Member Location: Ukraine/Kharkiv Posts: 41 Joined: 16.09.10 |
I dont know englis sinonyme |
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| blowave |
Posted on 15-10-2010 19:08
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Member Location: LINCOLN, UK Posts: 3151 Joined: 27.06.07 |
That is enough for me, we can't see the part!  This site might help with genitalia terminology in English.. http://www.geller...orph08.htm http://cubits.org... |
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| chironomus_1990 |
Posted on 15-10-2010 19:12
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Member Location: Ukraine/Kharkiv Posts: 41 Joined: 16.09.10 |
O! Grate! Thank you! |
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