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Gymnosoma sp (Tachinidae)
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| Susan R Walter |
Posted on 01-10-2010 20:00
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Member Location: Touraine du Sud, central France Posts: 1802 Joined: 14.01.06 |
I know this is probably unanswerable, but is it possible to suggest a species for this male Gymnosoma? I wondered about clavatum, but it's just a guess. Photo taken today in my orchard, central lowland France, about 7mm.
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 01-10-2010 20:45
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Super Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7706 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Hmm, with a continuous line of dusting to the tip of the scutellum then I'd make it dolycoridis or desertorum but I'd also need to see genitalia to elliminate clavatum Best thing to do is to catch them - lots of them - and then we will know better.
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
| Susan R Walter |
Posted on 02-10-2010 08:01
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Member Location: Touraine du Sud, central France Posts: 1802 Joined: 14.01.06 |
I knew you'd say that I thought afterwards I should have caught to send to you or Theo, but I didn't have anything except the camera (and a bucket for collecting nuts) with me. This is the first one I've seen in the orchard. I'll try to do better next time
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 02-10-2010 08:46
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Super Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7706 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Well, my door is always open to tachinid donations! Gymnosoma are always a bit nasty though so I wouldn't promise a confident ID ... but a male clavatum would have been easy to say yes/no to from genitalia
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
| Zeegers |
Posted on 02-10-2010 11:15
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19307 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Even clavatum is not always easy.... don't underestimate the problems. This might very well have been clavatum Theo |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 02-10-2010 18:12
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Super Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7706 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Yes, peering at his genitalia and looking for a light lump is not easy - especially as they are normally hidden amongst the back legs
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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Best thing to do is to catch them - lots of them - and then we will know better.
I thought afterwards I should have caught to send to you or Theo, but I didn't have anything except the camera (and a bucket for collecting nuts) with me. This is the first one I've seen in the orchard. I'll try to do better next time
Gymnosoma are always a bit nasty though so I wouldn't promise a confident ID ... but a male clavatum would have been easy to say yes/no to from genitalia