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| Walloon |
Posted on 26-09-2010 15:20
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Member Location: Posts: 3 Joined: 26.09.10 |
Hi, I'm an amateur and entirely new to diptera. I'm keen to learn however and willing to have a go at key'ing things out. I've been trying to id the crane fly below. My progress is slow, partly because I'm still getting my head around the 'code' for wing veins. I couldn't find any online keys to British crane flies, though found a US one http://iz.carnegi...idkeys.htm. This key requires I know my R, Sc1 and Rs veins. Can anyone tell me i) name of my fly ii) Did I get the veins correct (photo to follow) ? ( Just from browsing pictures of crane flies on the web I guessed at nephrotomoa but in key above this should have 'short Rs'. Assuming I'm looking at correct vein, mine doesn't obviously fit this description) |
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| Walloon |
Posted on 26-09-2010 15:53
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Member Location: Posts: 3 Joined: 26.09.10 |
...apologies - I'm new here and struggling to get an image to show (as per the FAQ it's <600pixels, only 20kB, 72dpi, jpeg and lowercase without spaces! - so I'm not sure what's going on)
Walloon attached the following image:  [13.49Kb] |
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| Walloon |
Posted on 26-09-2010 15:54
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Member Location: Posts: 3 Joined: 26.09.10 |
...finally...and here's the wing
Walloon attached the following image:  [16.16Kb] |
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| Philippe moniotte |
Posted on 27-09-2010 09:31
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 Member Location: Heron, Belgium Posts: 865 Joined: 14.10.05 |
I might be wrong, but it looks like a limoniidae, I think... you might want to check in that direction, until you get a more competent opinion than mine. Philippe A beautiful hypothesis can be slain by an ugly fact. |
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| Mark-uk |
Posted on 27-09-2010 10:33
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 Member Location: UK - Hampshire Posts: 792 Joined: 01.02.10 |
There are some very good test keys to UK crane flies (inc Limoniidae) on the Dipterists Forum website. But I think this is in the members only section? Still if one is interested in UK crane flies (or any other Diptera for that matter) this is worth the very modest membership fee. |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 27-09-2010 11:09
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
Hello, try to get hold of "Flies of the British Isles". It is perhaps a little bit old, but I still regard is as a kind of Bible. It is full of useful information about two winged insects. Also wingvenation is treated nicely in the work. I like it a lot. It really belongs on the bookshelves of a fly-hunter. ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| paqui |
Posted on 27-09-2010 18:28
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Member Location: Valencia (spain) Posts: 816 Joined: 02.09.05 |
Wing points to Limonia, rings at the apex of femora are present at least in L. nubeculata, (reasonable in case it was in a cave) but there are more possible species Regards |
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| jorgen |
Posted on 27-09-2010 21:35
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Member Location: Belgium Posts: 75 Joined: 25.07.05 |
Oosterbroek's Ctenophorinae key and the UK test keys of Stubbs are available with permission of the authors on the site of Louis Boumans. |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 28-09-2010 05:22
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
Jorgen, thanks for the link. Always handy to have these keys ready. I have too little literature about the nematocera
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 28-09-2010 06:48
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
I was looking at the dutch keys of the Tipulidae. The first key I purchased, many years ago, when I was still at high school, was the dutch Tipulidae key. It was a second hand copy, because it was sold out already. I was never able to understand why not a new edition of such a key was published. The family is very interesting, economically very important and, perhaps is my impression incorrect, the familiy isn't that difficult so also beginners of dipterology are able to identify the species.
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| Louis Boumans |
Posted on 23-01-2011 00:11
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Member Location: NO Oslo Posts: 269 Joined: 09.06.04 |
Here are Stubbs's draft keys! http://www.dipter...flies.html Edited by Louis Boumans on 23-01-2011 00:11 |
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 24-02-2011 00:44
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 Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3346 Joined: 17.10.05 |
Distal portions of femora with 3 dark annuli so Limonia nubeculosa (sic). |
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