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| Roger Thomason |
Posted on 25-08-2010 11:22
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Found on kitchen worktop...size 3-4mm. ID'able?
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| Roger Thomason |
Posted on 25-08-2010 11:22
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| Roger Thomason |
Posted on 25-08-2010 11:23
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Darkened wings..
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| Roger Thomason |
Posted on 25-08-2010 11:24
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 25-08-2010 17:29
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Looks more Hebecnema umbratica to me.... Lets wait if Stephane can confirm Joke |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 29-08-2010 12:11
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I don't think it is an Hebecnema. With these big cheeks I would rather say Phaonia. I can't see correctly the chaetotaxy of legs and thorax.
Stephane. |
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| Roger Thomason |
Posted on 29-08-2010 21:17
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Hi Joke & Stephane Thanks for looking at this and for your differing opinions. Keeps life interesting. Sorry about the quality of the pics ( dark fly which is a bummer to try and pick out any features). I've taken a few more which might assist, but with the legs in the position they are in it is hard to get a clear view of the required bits. Roger Thomason attached the following image:  [134.78Kb] |
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| Roger Thomason |
Posted on 29-08-2010 21:18
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Dunno if this helps?
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| Roger Thomason |
Posted on 29-08-2010 21:20
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Member Location: Mossbank,Shetland Isles. Posts: 5269 Joined: 17.07.08 |
Last one for now...any other views by request 
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 29-08-2010 22:27
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Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
Hmm, it must be Hebecnema after all. No Phaonia bristle, the frons is flat with a prominent ocelar tubercle and the genae don't seem so high on these lighter pictures (just in the first picture, but it is probably due to the angle of view). So I would agree with Joke with the suggestion of H. umbratica. Sorry.
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| Roger Thomason |
Posted on 29-08-2010 23:33
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Member Location: Mossbank,Shetland Isles. Posts: 5269 Joined: 17.07.08 |
Absolutely no reason to apologise Stephane, (not very often that you are wrong with your determinations) especially considering the quality of the original set of images. The second set were taken with a ring flash and lightened a bit in Photoshop...still, not good but a poor subject to try and photograph. Joke...what can I say that won't cause us both embarrassment  .H. umbratica is an unrecorded species up here. Regards Roger...Exile from Fb.  |
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