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Tachinidae -> Aprhria sp.
paqui
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Posted on 07-08-2010 15:33
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Hi, this is a pic taken by Fran Vives, I upload it here wiht his authorization. The pic was taken 30th. july among Pinus pinaster, Quercus ilex and fruit trees (mediterranean coast of Spain)

I have no idea, any help is welcome

http://www.biodiv..._id=147682

Thanks in advance, regards
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Certainly a tachinid but not sure which - the bend in the median vein looks unusual - very smooth. Did he get any other photos? Smile
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Hello, yes, that vein made me doubt about the family!. I asked him, I´ll edit this post with another pic in case he has more.
Thank you very much :)

Edit: He sent me more pics:
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One more
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Very unusual - it needs Theo though Smile
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I think there are no more pics, if you want I can send them not reduced per mail.
It´s confusing me a lot, thanks again :)
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The last picture is of great help (no matter how bad).

the mouth margin is distinctly projecting. It is not a Linnaemyia (no appendix to vein M) nor Ernestiini (habitus) and neither Leskiini since there are several ad on tibia 2. So this and the blunt bend in vein M suggests to me somehting in the Bithia / Aphria / Atylostoma area.
Atylostoma has the mouth margin not projecting, so that it can't be.

The arista is clearly thickened on more than basal half. That is good news !This leaves only Aphria and Demoticus. Demoticus has discal setae, Aphria not and ours not as well. SO APhria it is.
This is consistent with the obvious reddish frontal stripe.

The reason it was all so complicated, is that Aphria is easily recognized by the elongated proboscis, that is. if the proboscis is visible !! It is not here, and that got us in trouble.

I'm not gonna go further to species level, four similar species.
 
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Thank you very Much! :)
 
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