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 Rhinophoridae? (July-10, 2010) --> Tricogena rubricosa
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 11-07-2010 16:27
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 Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14411 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello! This only 4-5 mm measuring fly from our housewall last night (northwest Germany) looks very much like the Frauenfeldia rubricosa in the gallery to me. Could it be that genus? Juergen Peters attached the following image:  [71.47Kb] Edited by Juergen Peters on 17-07-2010 20:41 Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 12-07-2010 23:23
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14411 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hi! No chance? Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Jaakko |
Posted on 15-07-2010 21:28
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 Member Location: Joensuu, Finland Posts: 479 Joined: 04.08.08 |
Tricogena rubricosa gets my vote as well. Seen this species first time myself this summer, but seems "häufig" in also here Hessen. |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 15-07-2010 21:39
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14411 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Jaakko wrote: Tricogena rubricosa gets my vote as well. Seen this species first time myself this summer, but seems "häufig" in also here Hessen. Many thanks. Tricogena is a newer genus name for it? Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 17-07-2010 15:18
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19299 Joined: 21.07.04 |
It has been argued that Trichogena should have priority, if I remember correctly both names are from the same year. In any case, as known I dislike Rondanian misspellings. Theo |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 17-07-2010 16:04
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14411 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello, Theo! Zeegers wrote: It has been argued that Trichogena should have priority, if I remember correctly both names are from the same year. In any case, as known I dislike Rondanian misspellings. Thanks. But now you are confusing me...  Is Trichogena just a typo, or do you mean Tricogena is a misspelling?
Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Thomas Pape |
Posted on 17-07-2010 20:03
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Member Location: Natural History Museum of Denmark Posts: 110 Joined: 29.08.05 |
Tricogena is older than Frauenfeldia and therefore has priority. Rondani names very often suffers from misspellings and problems stemming from subsequent emendations. In this case, Rondani (1856) provided two original spellings for this genus-group name: Tricogena and Tricogenia. Neave (1950) selected Tricogena as the correct original spelling. The spelling Trichogena is a later emendation by Bezzi & Stein (1907) and is unjustified. Therefore, the correct spelling is Tricogena. |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 17-07-2010 20:40
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14411 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello, Thomas! Many thanks for your explanations. Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 21-07-2010 11:10
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19299 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Thomas uses the term 'correct spelling' in the nomenclatoral sense. And he is right. I used the term in a linguistic sense: Rondani should have written Trichogena (but he didn't....) I am still considering what penalty Rondani should get Theo |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 21-07-2010 16:13
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14411 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello, Theo! Zeegers wrote: Rondani should have written Trichogena Which would mean "hairy cheek", if I'm right. Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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