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 Another Ichneumon ?
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| LordV |
Posted on 24-08-2006 09:19
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Taken 23/08/06 on a raspberry leaf in a shady area of my garden South Coast UK, About 7mm long. Very long mouth feelers. Any ideas ? Thanks Brian V.    |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 24-08-2006 09:48
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I'd say Braconidae.
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| Jan Willem |
Posted on 24-08-2006 09:49
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It looks like Braconidae to me. I can't see the mandibles very good, but it could be a member of the subfamily Alysiinae. Jan Willem |
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| LordV |
Posted on 24-08-2006 10:02
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Thanks for the help. Just to show my complete ignorance of naming and bug families, this means the following ID is correct so far ? Hymenoptera: Ichneumonoidea: Braconidae: Alysiinae So is it an Ichneumon wasp ? or does it have to be in the Ichneumonidae to have that generic title- ie this would normally be referred to as Braconid wasp rather than an Ichneumon wasp ? Thanks Brian V. Edited by LordV on 24-08-2006 10:17 |
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| diphascon |
Posted on 24-08-2006 19:54
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LordV wrote: this would normally be referred to as Braconid wasp rather than an Ichneumon wasp ? Thanks Brian V. So it is. cheers - martin |
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| Jan Willem |
Posted on 25-08-2006 12:18
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I asked Kees van Achterberg if he agreed with me about the specimen being a member of the subfamily Alysiinae. Well he did agree with me and wrote the following: It's a species of the genus Asobara s.l. (so including Aphaereta). It's a male. Difficult to identify! So: Hymenoptera: Ichneumonoidea: Braconidae: Alysiinae: Asobara (s.l.) spec. Aphaereta used to be treated as a separate genus but is currently regarded as a subgenus of the genus Asobara. For as far as I know Asobara species are known as important parasitoids of Drosophilidae (I didn't get this information from Kees). Jan Willem |
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| LordV |
Posted on 25-08-2006 21:08
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Thanks Jan and Martin for the further help  Brian V. |
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but don't see the image in the post.