Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
 Phorocera assimilis, Tachinidae
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| JariF |
Posted on 13-05-2010 09:54
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 Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 2072 Joined: 20.01.06 |
Hi, here is a bigger one. I can take more pictures, if I just know what is needed. May 12. 2010 Helsinki, Finland. Jari JariF attached the following image:  [160.18Kb] Edited by JariF on 22-05-2010 05:19 |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 13-05-2010 10:10
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 Super Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7706 Joined: 12.07.04 |
If it's a male I suggest preparing the male genitalia  Also, how big is it and can we see a dorsal view and a good view showing the depth of the gena vs eye height? 
Edited by ChrisR on 13-05-2010 10:11 Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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| JariF |
Posted on 13-05-2010 10:18
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 2072 Joined: 20.01.06 |
The fly is in acetone just now, so I will take more pictures tomorrow. It's a larger one, maybe 10mm. Jari |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 13-05-2010 10:23
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Super Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7706 Joined: 12.07.04 |
It's looking a bit Phorocera-ish but it might just be the angle that is confusing me ... but the male genitalia look big and could be distinctive
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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| JariF |
Posted on 13-05-2010 15:26
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 2072 Joined: 20.01.06 |
Yes, I believe this is indeed Phorocera obscura. I emptied jus my malaise and there were four more of these. Large black genitals and white beard. Jari |
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| JariF |
Posted on 15-05-2010 15:47
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 2072 Joined: 20.01.06 |
Here some more pictures. All my Phorocera are dark and this one has bright orange triangulars on side of abdomen.
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| JariF |
Posted on 15-05-2010 15:49
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And from back.
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| JariF |
Posted on 15-05-2010 15:49
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 2072 Joined: 20.01.06 |
Dorsal
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| JariF |
Posted on 15-05-2010 15:50
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 2072 Joined: 20.01.06 |
And face
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| JariF |
Posted on 21-05-2010 10:42
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 2072 Joined: 20.01.06 |
Maybe I should try once more with this one. |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 21-05-2010 11:37
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Super Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7706 Joined: 12.07.04 |
I would just compare the genitalia to known Phorocera - they are quite distinctive
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 21-05-2010 20:05
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19299 Joined: 21.07.04 |
It is Phorocera, not obscura but assimilis Nomen est omen.... Theo |
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| JariF |
Posted on 22-05-2010 05:18
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 2072 Joined: 20.01.06 |
Thank You Theo. We have assimilis in our list but no specimens in our database (so far ) This must be a bit better species in Finland I believe. I think I have two or three like this among dozens of obscura. Jari |
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