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 wasp in a pool
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 18-08-2006 23:36
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
this photo was not taken by myself. I just know that was taken in Portugal... in a pool... not sure about identity of photographer - I just know that he is Portuguese.  wasp.. which family? And why?  |
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 19-08-2006 00:07
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 Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3319 Joined: 17.10.05 |
Maybe a wood wasp (Xiphydria)? |
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| proctoss |
Posted on 19-08-2006 00:42
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 191 Joined: 12.08.06 |
Typhiidae |
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| Susan R Walter |
Posted on 19-08-2006 07:21
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 Member Location: Touraine du Sud, central France Posts: 1802 Joined: 14.01.06 |
I've seen really large mud wasps - the size of hornets - land on the surface of billabongs in the outback of Australia, clearly to sip water. I don't know if they were then making mud by combining it with soil, or whether they needed the water for their own rehydration. This wasp appears to be standing on the water surface, rather than having drowned, so maybe it is engaged in a similar way. Mind you, I know from having a pool in Australia, one is always fishing drowned inverts out. This can sometimes be a nasty surprise, when the spider you have just fished out not to be drowned, just a bit waterlogged - it's one of those things Australian children get taught not to do, as the beast can revive and bite you. Susan |
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| David Gibbs |
Posted on 19-08-2006 11:52
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 Member Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 833 Joined: 17.06.06 |
seems to have a 'wasp-waist' so i dont think it is a sawfly. my guess is Sapygidae or something near but not one i have seen myself |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 19-08-2006 12:00
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
David Gibbs wrote: seems to have a 'wasp-waist' so i dont think it is a sawfly. my guess is Sapygidae or something near but not one i have seen myself So Sapygidae family or Xiphydriidae family. I'm inclined for the last option. It seems like a Xiphydria sp.! What do you think? Thanks for advance! |
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| cthirion |
Posted on 19-08-2006 12:18
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Member Location: Awirs (Flémalle) Belgique Posts: 901 Joined: 13.08.04 |
Tiphiidae ???Myzininae ovipositor curved! not Xyphidria, because abdominal segments contracted! cthirion |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 19-08-2006 12:28
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
cthirion wrote: Tiphiidae ???Myzininae ovipositor curved! not Xyphidria, because abdominal segments contracted! hmm... but Xiphydriidae wasp, right? SO, which genus if not Xyphidria.. any clue? Thank you!your french link seems great... but my French is not good, I will use translate of google... or dictionary.com/translation.  |
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| proctoss |
Posted on 19-08-2006 15:04
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 191 Joined: 12.08.06 |
cthirion wrote: Tiphiidae ???Myzininae ovipositor curved! not Xyphidria, because abdominal segments contracted! see pic. proctoss attached the following image:  [30.57Kb] |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 19-08-2006 15:10
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
proctoss wrote: cthirion wrote: Tiphiidae ???Myzininae ovipositor curved! not Xyphidria, because abdominal segments contracted! see pic. Here... in this image is very clear the segments contracted, but in the photo above is not clear... Any more suggestions? |
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| cthirion |
Posted on 19-08-2006 17:42
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Member Location: Awirs (Flémalle) Belgique Posts: 901 Joined: 13.08.04 |
Tiphiidae always ! ?subfamily??????Myzininae, it seems to me that the ovipositor is curved upwards on the photograph if not perhaps another subfamily ?? cthirion |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 19-08-2006 19:09
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
cthirion wrote: Tiphiidae always ! ?subfamily??????Myzininae, it seems to me that the ovipositor is curved upwards on the photograph if not perhaps another subfamily ?? I agree.. the ovipositor is really curved upwards! Thank you. |
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