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[ID] Two flies from UK, please
Jason G
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Posted on 02-04-2010 01:37
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Good morning all,

This is my first post, so I'm bound to do something silly - so I'll apologise in advance of that! Grin

Both were photographed in the spring of 2009, in London UK. Any help on these appreciated Smile

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Jason Cool

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Fly 1 dorsal:
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...and the second fly:
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...and a second shot of my second fly:
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Hi Jason, welcome to Diptera.info. Don't worry about doing anything silly, some of us (myself e.g.) make a habit of it.

Can't help much with your flies, I'm afraid, other than that they both look like Sarcophagidae to me. In which case identification may not go further than Genus, but you never know, I'm often wrong.

BTW if you limit it to one fly/sp. per post (you can always add extra photos of it) it helps avoid confusion over which is being discussed.

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The first photo made me think of Sarcophagidae too but the petiolate median vein in the second fly would be a *very* unusual (impossible?) feature for sarcophagids. I would try Ramonda spatulata for the second fly - the petiole, greenish colour and slightly shaded wing-veins would support that. I'm still a bit perplexed by the first fly though ... not sure about that Smile
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Of course, Ramonda spathulata, I thought I'd seen that one before.

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Thanks for the welcome, Tim Smile

ChrisR wrote:
The first photo made me think of Sarcophagidae too but the petiolate median vein in the second fly would be a *very* unusual (impossible?) feature for sarcophagids. I would try Ramonda spatulata for the second fly - the petiole, greenish colour and slightly shaded wing-veins would support that. I'm still a bit perplexed by the first fly though ... not sure about that Smile


Maybe I need to colllect that one if I see it this year - both sexes were nearby, facing each other from about 1m.

Thanks for the second!
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