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 Sciomyzidae? > Pherbellia sp.
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| Stephen R |
Posted on 20-03-2010 19:55
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 Member Location: Clitheroe Lancashire UK Posts: 2396 Joined: 12.06.09 |
March 18, Clitheroe England. I forgot to check the size, but around 3mm. Will confirm later. EDIT: It is actually 4mm from the face to where I think the abdomen ends, around where the outer cross-vein is. Stephen R attached the following image:  [103.53Kb] Edited by Stephen R on 21-03-2010 11:24 |
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| Roger Thomason |
Posted on 20-03-2010 20:31
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 Member Location: Mossbank,Shetland Isles. Posts: 5269 Joined: 17.07.08 |
Hi Stephen...Looks like Heleomyzidae...maybe Heteromyza sp.... |
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| Stephen R |
Posted on 20-03-2010 21:45
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Member Location: Clitheroe Lancashire UK Posts: 2396 Joined: 12.06.09 |
Oh, OK. I thought Heleomyzidae had convergent postverticals, and I couldn't see any spines on the costa. But I've never seen Sciomyzids at first hand, so I'm guessing wildly, in accordance with time-honoured tradition  |
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| Roger Thomason |
Posted on 20-03-2010 21:59
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Member Location: Mossbank,Shetland Isles. Posts: 5269 Joined: 17.07.08 |
I'm guessing wildly too..Maybe if you cleaned the lense of that Cameraphone you insist on using then the spines on the costa would be visible.  Then again, maybe you are right and there are no spines.If you must use a Cameraphone, can I suggest next one you buy will be a Samsung GX-20. I use it and can recommend it fully. Talking crap again....Roger I don't have shares in Samsung. I'm never going to hear the end of this if wrong....am I ? Tephrochlamys ?....probably end up being a bloody Pherbellia  
Edited by Roger Thomason on 20-03-2010 22:11 |
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| Stephen R |
Posted on 20-03-2010 22:23
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Member Location: Clitheroe Lancashire UK Posts: 2396 Joined: 12.06.09 |
How about Dryomyzidae? At least they are allowed to have divergent postverts. I must go and measure the size, but I'm sure it was too small for Tephrochlamys - and probably for any Sciomyzidae too. It won't feel so bad if we were both wrong |
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| Stephen R |
Posted on 20-03-2010 23:05
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Member Location: Clitheroe Lancashire UK Posts: 2396 Joined: 12.06.09 |
I checked the size: 4mm (see edit in 1st post). |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 20-03-2010 23:51
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Pherbellia
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| Roger Thomason |
Posted on 21-03-2010 08:16
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Member Location: Mossbank,Shetland Isles. Posts: 5269 Joined: 17.07.08 |
All right, I know when I'm licked.... (all over) Frank Zappa..(Lyrics) Might miss out the rest of it to preserve the decency of this Website I am returning to the little room under the stairs, (With a Mud Shark  ) I may be gone some time....hopefully by the time I reappear there will be some flies to photograph.In disgrace.. AGAIN.....Roger....Bloody Pherbellia Edited by Roger Thomason on 21-03-2010 08:24 |
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| Stephen R |
Posted on 21-03-2010 11:22
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Member Location: Clitheroe Lancashire UK Posts: 2396 Joined: 12.06.09 |
Thanks Paul! Don't bother with the hair shirt, Roger - after all, you were the first to mention the correct ID ACcentuate the positive.... Stephen (Mr In-Between) R. PS. Next time I need your help I'll call you on my Nikon D300
Edited by Stephen R on 21-03-2010 11:25 |
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| Roger Thomason |
Posted on 21-03-2010 12:25
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Member Location: Mossbank,Shetland Isles. Posts: 5269 Joined: 17.07.08 |
Would you believe it...The National Union of Mud Sharks (FZ) don't allow working on Sundays, on the orders of their Patron Saint....St. Hugo of Caracas , so I'm back. Well Stephen using a Scattergun approach to ID'ing flies, one of us was bound to stumble upon the correct ID. I'm having bother receiving a signal on my Samsung GX 20 at the moment, will call you when it is back. Roger (Mr. Hairshirt 2010) Edited by Roger Thomason on 21-03-2010 12:40 |
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| Stephen R |
Posted on 21-03-2010 15:12
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Member Location: Clitheroe Lancashire UK Posts: 2396 Joined: 12.06.09 |
I think I may join you under the stairs - must stay away from Calliphoridae  Stephen. |
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| Roger Thomason |
Posted on 21-03-2010 15:39
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Member Location: Mossbank,Shetland Isles. Posts: 5269 Joined: 17.07.08 |
Especially ones called Melinda...... ..Messenger should be shot. The Mud Shark will be glad to see you.... |
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