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lousy photo of Oldenbergiella seticerca
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Posted on 28-02-2010 14:35
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It is a rainy day, so why not trying to make a good quality photo of an Olderbergiella seticerca Papp? I have a pretty good camera and a pretty good objective, yet very poor skills Sad

I can`t make it nicer, sorry friends.
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Posted on 28-02-2010 14:36
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BTW, it was collected on very old dogdroppings in Péterhalmi erdő, in Budapest, Hungary on 5th november 1995
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Posted on 28-02-2010 15:01
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It could be a one but I am not completely sure using my glasses Smile
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Be sure, they all have been checked by Laci himself.
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No doubt, but the ID characters are not well seen. at the pic Frown Andrzej
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How rare is this species? Was it described from Hungary? Where should I try to find it?

Thanks!
Walter Pfliegler - Amateur Nature Photographer from Hungary (and molecular biologist)
 
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Posted on 28-02-2010 20:34
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As far as I know it is only know from Hungary, but the info I have is pretty old! I have quite some specimens in my collection. I collected all in Budapest. But according to the Magyarország Állatvilága it has been collected in the Bükk, Dobogokő and Nagytétény.
I always collected in from the end of October till end of winter. Especially on sunny cold days you can see them on around old droppings. They are brilliant hoverers. It is just fascinating to observe them. Be fast when you see them and catch them, because when they escape, it takes a long time before they return. I saw sometimes 4 or 5 together.
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Posted on 28-02-2010 21:53
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Hmm, interesting, I collected almost every Heleomyzids I saw this Autumn (I was active from September until end of November in Bükk mts.) but never saw one. I'll keep on looking for them Smile
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You should know where the droppings of the dogs are, or others, and when you come close, approach them very carefully. These little flies are very alert. They escape easily.
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It is recorded also from Czech Republic (I have seen these specimens !) Andrzej Grin
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Posted on 28-02-2010 23:46
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Well, I can hardly imagine why the occurance of the species should be limited to Hungary, though the Carpathian basin is, of course, well defined. So I am not surprised that you found it.
For years I have been hoping to collect Oldenbergiella's (and Orbellia's) in the Netherlands. To my frustration always in vain.
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