Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
 Heleomyzidae spec.
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| joachimbertrands |
Posted on 27-02-2010 23:27
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Can someone help me with this fly? Found in a cave hibernating in the Viroin valley, in the southern part of Belgium. Jonas Mortelmans told me he first thought it was a member of the Heleomyza family, but I photographed the genitals and he now assures me it's something else. Any ideas? You can find the pictures on the link below: http://waarneming...p;local=be Joachim Edited by joachimbertrands on 28-02-2010 19:26 |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 28-02-2010 11:19
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
Heleomyzidae. Genus Heleomyza. I think H. captiosa. The photo`s are not detailed enough for me to be completely sure.
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 28-02-2010 13:21
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I think it is captiosa. If you want confirmation you can send it to me at the Natuurhistorisch Museum Maastricht.
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 28-02-2010 14:59
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2422 Joined: 05.01.06 |
not captiosa  The genus is Scoliocentra ! and the species name is: S. villosa. Andrzej
dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Environmental Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 28-02-2010 15:04
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
I am too lazy to go upstairs to look in the catalogue of Pal. Diptera. I can't imagine that many Scoliocentra species have been collected in Belgium. Do you have information about this, Andrzej. BTW, I feel more or less reluctant to react on any thing concerning Heleomyzidae; your remarks feel like a sting of a needle 
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| joachimbertrands |
Posted on 28-02-2010 16:01
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Wow, so it means that it's quite a good species for Belgium? Thanks Andrzej! Greetz Joachim |
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 28-02-2010 16:16
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2422 Joined: 05.01.06 |
Not many:-) From the genus Scoliocentra (excl. 2 species of Gymnomus) only 4 species. The S. villosa is the most common species in caves ! Andrzej
dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Environmental Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 28-02-2010 16:17
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
Well, Joachim, maybe a too fast reaction. Perhaps it says more about the number of dipterists collecting Heleomyzidae, than about the occurence of certain species
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| jonas |
Posted on 28-02-2010 16:47
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Nice I'm glad it isnt Heleomyza  Jonas Edited by jonas on 28-02-2010 16:49 |
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 28-02-2010 16:59
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2422 Joined: 05.01.06 |
I'm too  Andrzej
dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Environmental Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences |
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| joachimbertrands |
Posted on 28-02-2010 17:19
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Member Location: Posts: 3 Joined: 26.02.10 |
Okay, thanks to everyone for the determination :-) |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 28-02-2010 19:52
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
Checked the catalogue. It is not specially mentioned from Belgium, but given the area, I won't be surprised that it has been recorded already, since it is knows from Central Europe, Northern Europa and Western Europe including UK.
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 28-02-2010 22:57
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2422 Joined: 05.01.06 |
Ruud, Did you check the old literature ??? Andrzej dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Environmental Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 28-02-2010 23:35
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
Just the cat. Of Pal. Diptera. That's all
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 01-03-2010 00:36
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2422 Joined: 05.01.06 |
There are some papers published by Leruth, concerning Belge Fauna: Leruth, R., 1931, Notw préliminaire sur la faune cavernicole de Belgique, Bull. Soc. Belge et d'etudes géol. et archeol., 10: 88-101. Leruth, R., 1934, Exploration biologique des cavernes de la Belgique et du Limbourg Hollandais, XVIe contribution: Dipteres: Dryomyzidae et Helomyzidae (1), Bull. et Ann. Soc. Ent. Belgique, 74: 99-128. Leruth, R., 1939, La biologie du domaine souterrain et la faune cavernicole de la Belgique, Mém. Mus. Hist. Nat. Belgique, 87: 1-506. Edited by Andrzej on 01-03-2010 00:36 dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Environmental Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences |
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| caliprobola |
Posted on 26-03-2010 21:03
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Member Location: Belgium Posts: 203 Joined: 24.05.07 |
It is in the (outdated - 1991) checklist of Belgian Diptera, mentioned as being present in the collection of the Belgian Royal Natural History Museum. |
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