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 Paregle audacula?
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| cyprinoid |
Posted on 01-02-2010 18:41
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Norway, 31.07.09
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| cyprinoid |
Posted on 01-02-2010 18:41
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Member Location: Norway Posts: 1751 Joined: 19.06.09 |
2nd pic
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 01-02-2010 21:24
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 Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
If I'm not mistaken, i see 4 pd. There are two species with 4 pd: Egle ciliata / brevicornis Egle ciliata has no ad on t2, and we can see a strong one on t2 on your photo. Left only E.brevicornis...(has 1ad+1pd+2pv on t2) But can't see clearly if there are hairs on the notopleuron depression (between the two notopleural setae) And i only have E.ciliata to compare with. Should be E.brevicornis, but i like to be convinced......and i'm not   Joke Edited by javanerkelens on 01-02-2010 21:26 |
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| cyprinoid |
Posted on 01-02-2010 22:24
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Member Location: Norway Posts: 1751 Joined: 19.06.09 |
Great! This will be my first Egle then! close up of thorax cyprinoid attached the following image:  [173.83Kb] Edited by cyprinoid on 01-02-2010 22:33 Hyperbolizer |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 01-02-2010 23:40
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Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
Hmmm...(bit blur and it seems bare) I think Egle sp. is right, but i have doubt about the species, because i doubt if the last dc is rearly a dc or just a strong hair on the thorax, looking like a dc And E.brevicornis should have about 6 av on tibia 3 and i see only 3 av. And also the very long pv at end of hindfemur gives doubt. I will pass Joke |
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| cyprinoid |
Posted on 02-02-2010 08:29
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Member Location: Norway Posts: 1751 Joined: 19.06.09 |
Thank you very much for all your help! I was hoping that I could put a cf. in there but I will let it stand as Egle sp. then. Hyperbolizer |
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| Michael Ackland |
Posted on 02-02-2010 10:42
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Member Location: Dorset UK Posts: 680 Joined: 23.02.08 |
It is not audacula, and I don't think it is Egle, mouth margin not projecting enough. Unfortunately the setae are indistinct and I can't distinguish the number of dcs |
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| cyprinoid |
Posted on 02-02-2010 11:40
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Member Location: Norway Posts: 1751 Joined: 19.06.09 |
Ok, so the pic is not worth much then, I will do more collecting the forthcoming season.
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 02-02-2010 14:02
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Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
That's why i could not find a matching species....it's not Egle at all Joke |
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| cyprinoid |
Posted on 06-02-2010 22:56
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Member Location: Norway Posts: 1751 Joined: 19.06.09 |
But is it Paregle, or should I file as 'Anthomyiidae'  .
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 06-02-2010 23:48
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Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
I can't see a av seta on the midtibia.....and Paregle should have. I think it wil be difficult. I looked at it several times, but with no result. Maybe if we had a better view on the hindtibia, but the angle is just a bit wrong, even with an enlargement. I think: Anthomyiidae Joke |
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