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 Dolichopodidae
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| Roger Thomason |
Posted on 22-01-2010 16:39
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 Member Location: Mossbank,Shetland Isles. Posts: 5269 Joined: 17.07.08 |
From the garden in summer...ID'able?
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| Stefan Naglis |
Posted on 23-01-2010 15:07
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Member Location: Switzerland Posts: 738 Joined: 27.12.08 |
Sympycnus sp. male |
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| Roger Thomason |
Posted on 23-01-2010 18:21
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Member Location: Mossbank,Shetland Isles. Posts: 5269 Joined: 17.07.08 |
Thank you Stefan, the only Sympycnus I've seen here so far is S.pulicarius, maybe one of those? Regards Roger |
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| Igor Grichanov |
Posted on 26-01-2010 12:11
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 Member Location: St.Petersburg, Russia Posts: 1810 Joined: 17.08.06 |
Why not S.pulicarius? Sympycnus pulicarius (Fallén, 1823) and Sympycnus annulipes (Meigen, 1824) were synonymized by Meuffels (1981), who found a gradual transition from the longer third antennal segment of S. annulipes to the shorter third antennal segment of S. pulicarius, examining specimens of populations of different localities, mainly in the Netherlands. Later Cole (1990) commenting paper by Beuk (1990) has noted that in the British fauna mainly intermediate forms are present, but showing also a taxonomically insignificant variability in the hind tarsus morphology and even in the male genitalia. Later nobody provided key characters to distinguish different forms. In addition, nothing is known about ecological difference between those phenotypes; therefore, I consider the two names belonging to the same species, S. pulicarius. Igor Grichanov |
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| Roger Thomason |
Posted on 30-01-2010 20:46
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Member Location: Mossbank,Shetland Isles. Posts: 5269 Joined: 17.07.08 |
Thanks Igor...No reason for it not to be S.pulicarius, only enquiring if it might be  . I had a female ID'd by Kahis a while back (Gallery), so now I have both sexes  Regards Roger PS; Which BEUK (1990)?? |
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| Marc Pollet |
Posted on 02-02-2010 00:16
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Member Location: Welle (Denderleeuw) Posts: 161 Joined: 02.06.05 |
Dear Thomas, Also notice that Parent (1925) described a species, Sympycnus desoutteri, that corresponds with most of the specimens I have collected in Belgium. Also know that Peter Chandler (UK) informed me some time ago that at least two morphologically different forms exist in the UK, but no attempt has been made thus far to work this mess out. Cheers, Marc |
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| Marc Pollet |
Posted on 02-02-2010 00:17
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Member Location: Welle (Denderleeuw) Posts: 161 Joined: 02.06.05 |
Correct this time: of course, I mean Roger, not Thomas. Must be the late hour. Cheers, Marc |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 02-02-2010 01:03
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Roger Thomason wrote: PS; Which BEUK (1990)?? My Beuk (1990). You might be surprised but I could even write at that time. It was in the Empids and Dolies Newsletter of the Diptera Recording Schemes. I think I related some of Meuffels findings on i]Sympycnus[/i]. I may have the actual text somewhere,,, Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| Roger Thomason |
Posted on 02-02-2010 10:16
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Member Location: Mossbank,Shetland Isles. Posts: 5269 Joined: 17.07.08 |
Thanks Marc...no need to apologise regarding my name...I think I've given every combination of the lettering of your name in the past, as anagrams. My Checklist has S.desoutteri but as per; http://diptera.in...d_id=23039 I changed it. So Paul, 20 years ago you were writing articles for the NDRS. Did you use coloured crayons or chalk? Time to dig out the text. Regards Roger |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 02-02-2010 12:08
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Roger Thomason wrote: So Paul, 20 years ago you were writing articles for the NDRS. Did you use coloured crayons or chalk? Regards Roger Fingerpaint... Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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