Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
 Scathopahgidae Nanna sp.?
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| blowave |
Posted on 07-01-2010 19:28
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 Member Location: LINCOLN, UK Posts: 3151 Joined: 27.06.07 |
Taken on 9th August 2009, on my neighbour's marqee near Lincoln UK. One pic only but I have cropped off the head so posting two. Janet blowave attached the following image:  [182.58Kb] Edited by blowave on 09-01-2010 00:54 |
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| blowave |
Posted on 07-01-2010 19:28
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Member Location: LINCOLN, UK Posts: 3151 Joined: 27.06.07 |
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blowave attached the following image:  [126.37Kb] |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 08-01-2010 08:38
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Scathopahgidae. Nanna perhaps?
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| blowave |
Posted on 09-01-2010 00:54
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Member Location: LINCOLN, UK Posts: 3151 Joined: 27.06.07 |
If it is Nanna, we have 7 species listed. N. armillata, brevifrons, fasciata, multisetosa, tibiella, flavipes and inermis. The last two are in the Gallery and I don't think look like mine although the legs on N. flavipes look to match. I'll change the title and hope someone can give it a name.  |
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| Cranefly |
Posted on 09-01-2010 09:21
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Member Location: Shachovskaya Posts: 647 Joined: 17.09.08 |
Try to check the key. Nanna has 2 setae on scutellum, and this fly has 4. |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 09-01-2010 09:36
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
It was just a suggestion. I did not have a key at hand, so...
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 09-01-2010 09:46
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 Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
I think it is Trichopalpus (=Chaetosa) punctipes, but I can't be sure without a lateral view.
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| blowave |
Posted on 09-01-2010 23:10
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Member Location: LINCOLN, UK Posts: 3151 Joined: 27.06.07 |
Stephane Lebrun wrote: I think it is Trichopalpus (=Chaetosa) punctipes, but I can't be sure without a lateral view. Thank you Stephane, if you are sure it is a Chaetosa sp. then we only the ones species listed for the UK, C. punctipes. I checked Trichopalpus, we only have one species of that which is Trichopalpus fraternus Both have a synonym or previous genus of Cordylura. This might all be outdated, so where does that leave us? |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 10-01-2010 12:27
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Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
Chaetosa punctipes is a synonym of Trichopalpus punctipes, and I am not sure of the genus.
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| blowave |
Posted on 10-01-2010 16:06
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Member Location: LINCOLN, UK Posts: 3151 Joined: 27.06.07 |
I have checked on ITIS, as well as Biolib, there appears to be only one species of Chaetosa, which is C. punctipes. http://www.itis.g...lue=148406 GBIF shows it in my area, http://data.gbif....s/16084659 The NBN shows it either side of me but it's never up to date or is under-recorded. http://data.nbn.o...0000030398 The synonym there is also Cordylura punctipes The only reference I found for Trichopalpus punctipes was on a Norwegian document, neither ITIS or Species 2000 recognises it. BUT there is a fly named Trichopalpus punctipes in the Gallery, and I have found the source of the name on a google, from an old thread here! It is from Gorodkov's key in Insecta of European part of USSR, 1970, vol.5, part2. http://www.dipter...;pid=11682 http://www.dipter...to_id=2127 Does the current taxonomic information make this name incorrect? |
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