Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
 Muscidae, Muscina sp.?
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| cyprinoid |
Posted on 02-01-2010 12:35
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 Member Location: Norway Posts: 1751 Joined: 19.06.09 |
Norway, 9-10 mm
cyprinoid attached the following image:  [70.25Kb] Edited by cyprinoid on 04-01-2010 14:14 Hyperbolizer |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 02-01-2010 14:27
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
very interesting!! Muscina sp. ?? |
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| cyprinoid |
Posted on 02-01-2010 19:05
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Member Location: Norway Posts: 1751 Joined: 19.06.09 |
Some other views, let me know if other angles can help. Always fun to find something that is interesting to others. cyprinoid attached the following image:  [180.05Kb] Hyperbolizer |
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| cyprinoid |
Posted on 04-01-2010 10:49
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Member Location: Norway Posts: 1751 Joined: 19.06.09 |
Could it be Phaonia? It reminds me of rufiventris.
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 04-01-2010 12:43
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
well.. the way the M vein bents it is from a typical Muscina.. wait for muscids--lovers. |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 04-01-2010 13:44
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 Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
Indeed very strainge one.... Nothing seems to fit... Could you check several things: Is arista bare or are most hairs broken Could you look if there are for sure no little golden hairs under scutellum How is the analvein going Is there a pd bristle on the hindtibia or also broken Are there interfrontals present or also broken Joke 
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| cyprinoid |
Posted on 04-01-2010 13:45
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Member Location: Norway Posts: 1751 Joined: 19.06.09 |
One could think that I find pleasure in constantly exhibiting a profound lack of wit. Sorry Jorge
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 04-01-2010 13:49
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
no problem, cyprinoid. This fly is indeed very interesting. I agree with Joke. |
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| cyprinoid |
Posted on 04-01-2010 13:52
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Member Location: Norway Posts: 1751 Joined: 19.06.09 |
Joke. I will try to take pics showing what you ask, but everytime I breathe near it, something falls off  Hyperbolizer |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 04-01-2010 13:53
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
use a mask!  lol |
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| cyprinoid |
Posted on 04-01-2010 13:58
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Member Location: Norway Posts: 1751 Joined: 19.06.09 |
With ref. to my topic in 'general queries' after brutally pinning the fly I tried to clean it up a little with a gentle stream of air 
Edited by cyprinoid on 04-01-2010 14:01 Hyperbolizer |
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| cyprinoid |
Posted on 04-01-2010 18:19
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Member Location: Norway Posts: 1751 Joined: 19.06.09 |
arista.. long hairs at base short hairs be seen further out scutellum... I can not see any hairs, maybe if they are so tiny that they can be confused with noise in the pic cyprinoid attached the following image:  [173.14Kb] Hyperbolizer |
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| cyprinoid |
Posted on 04-01-2010 18:22
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Member Location: Norway Posts: 1751 Joined: 19.06.09 |
hind tibia
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| cyprinoid |
Posted on 04-01-2010 18:27
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Member Location: Norway Posts: 1751 Joined: 19.06.09 |
interfrontals?!??! 
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| cyprinoid |
Posted on 04-01-2010 18:28
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Member Location: Norway Posts: 1751 Joined: 19.06.09 |
head on
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 04-01-2010 21:34
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Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
You did your best, but i can't make anythink of it.. Some possible yellow / yellowish flies : Phaonia pallida...but has frontal vitta and occiput more yellow and eyes haired Thricops diaphanus...has flagellomere dark Achanthipter rohrelliformis....has 2-3 dc Phaonia rufiventris...has flagellomere dark Helina montana....has no prealar Helina abdominalis !!....has antennae+palpi yellow and flagellomere darkened distally+scutellum and calli yellow+abdomen and legs yellow, .....but i don't know the species And i can't deny, that the analvein seems very long and the fly has some simulairity with Pegomya species, but with 4 dc ...?.....I don't think To make a long story.....short I don't know Joke Edited by javanerkelens on 04-01-2010 21:34 |
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| cyprinoid |
Posted on 05-01-2010 07:56
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Member Location: Norway Posts: 1751 Joined: 19.06.09 |
Many thanks for your efforts Joke. Hopefully we will get the answer some day. Hyperbolizer |
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| cyprinoid |
Posted on 05-01-2010 22:01
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Member Location: Norway Posts: 1751 Joined: 19.06.09 |
For the record: I am willing to send the specimen to anyone who feels they can take it on. Hyperbolizer |
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