Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
 Pales - but which one?
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 20-12-2009 01:29
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Pales pavida vs. processionae always confuses me because I have never actually seen a specimen of processionae  Is this just P.pavida? Estonia - 19.8.2005
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 20-12-2009 01:29
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another view...
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 20-12-2009 01:30
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 20-12-2009 01:30
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 20-12-2009 13:53
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19298 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Chris, This is simple There are no oaks in Estonia and certainly no Thaumetopoea.... Theo |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 20-12-2009 14:03
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Ahhh, ok - P.pavida it is then 
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 20-12-2009 17:57
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19298 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Yes, also by the shape of the head, it is very tricky, though As promised, I will send you some processioneae. Theo |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 20-12-2009 18:14
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That's great - thanks 
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| Jaakko |
Posted on 20-12-2009 20:16
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There are oaks in Estonia...  |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 20-12-2009 20:33
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19298 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Yes, there are oaks in Estonia, but very few and hardly if any natural. I saw then only in villages. Anyway, you did not complain on Thaumetepoea, so... Theo |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 20-12-2009 21:21
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sorry for being pedantic but it is not Thaumetopoea ? I also make my typos. |
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| Jaakko |
Posted on 21-12-2009 08:40
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Member Location: Joensuu, Finland Posts: 479 Joined: 04.08.08 |
We have naturally occurring oak forests even in the South-Western Finland, so surely there must be some in Estonia as well. Theo is right, there is no T. processionea, however it is one of those species expected to establish itself here in the future due to climate change... |
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