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Posted on 17-12-2009 18:16
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Hi,

as I don't find picture of Tanyptera nigricornis, can this one be one ? I got some Tanyptera atrata but just one of this kind of black male. June 25.2009 Loviisa, Finland.

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what a beast!
 
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Hi Jari,

you will find help here: Oosterbroek et al. 2006

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Yes, thank You. I have the key and that's what makes me wonder... trochanter of this black one is clearly orange Frown Maybe it's just some kind of mutant Smile

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In my experience, what is supposed to be T. atrata according to Oosterbroek is extremely variable and I have difficulty to believe it really is only 1 species.
Not being an expert, though.


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Savtchenko also indicates that T. atrata is variable in coloration. Still yellowish trochanters seem to be stable character separating it from T.nigricornis.
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Hi all!

Well, never trust in colors....
Anyway, you have males: is there any difference or congruence with genital figs. 48/49? Is your bright specimen (other thread) in this respect different?

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Jari: Ask Jukka, he'll drop you the name:

http://sites.google.com/site/cranefliesoffinland/
 
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I did send Jukka a mail with the pictures yesterday Smile So this should be the normal colour for male atrata and this one should then be the female. June 26.2009 Loviisa, Finland.

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