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 Phaonia?
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| Ingrid Altmann |
Posted on 15-12-2009 19:15
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Hello, could this be Phaonia or is this completely incorrect? 2006-09-27, Germany, Bavaria, Furth im Wald, own garden Ingrid Altmann attached the following image:  [73.95Kb] |
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| Ingrid Altmann |
Posted on 15-12-2009 19:16
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2nd image
Ingrid Altmann attached the following image:  [65.74Kb] Edited by Ingrid Altmann on 15-12-2009 19:16 |
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| Ingrid Altmann |
Posted on 15-12-2009 19:17
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Member Location: Posts: 1018 Joined: 29.11.09 |
and another image of this fly
Ingrid Altmann attached the following image:  [72Kb] |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 15-12-2009 19:27
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 Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
Yes, the "Phaonia bristle" is probably broken, but I think it's Phaonia subventa.
Stephane. |
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| cyprinoid |
Posted on 15-12-2009 21:43
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 Member Location: Norway Posts: 1751 Joined: 19.06.09 |
Stephane, is it possible to explain the "Phaonia bristle" (preferably with a pic). I am curious. It would be nice to be able to recognise a Phanoia Hyperbolizer |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 15-12-2009 22:34
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Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
"Phaonia bristle" is the name given to the posterodorsal seta which all Phaonia (except one rare species) have got on the distal third of their hind tibia. Note that other Muscidae can have this pd seta on hind tibia (especially in Muscinae subfamily, but not Helina nor Mydaea which are look-alike of Phaonia). Here is the illustration : Stephane Lebrun attached the following image:  [149.24Kb] Stephane. |
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| Ingrid Altmann |
Posted on 16-12-2009 10:08
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Member Location: Posts: 1018 Joined: 29.11.09 |
Thank you very much for the determination Stephane and for the interesting informations. Ingrid |
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| cyprinoid |
Posted on 16-12-2009 14:49
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Member Location: Norway Posts: 1751 Joined: 19.06.09 |
Thanks Stephane, we'll se if I have the wit to apply this the comming season.
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