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At first.....a femaleShock
So very confusing...
I could be wrong, but it seems to have some hairs between the notopleurals..
Means, that it could be Delia floralis/planipalpis/radicum, but they are very simulair to each other!
But when i look at the prealar (short) it does not fit, should be at least the same as the posterior notopleural.
I also see on the back of the occiput (on top) two rows of short hairs.......and i thought Delia has not.
Also not sure about the hairs on midtibia......does it have 2 pd or only 1pd (confusing with the posterior setae)
Can you still follow it...Grin
Maybe possible to make an enlargement of the area between the neutopleurals to be sure if there are hairs between...?!

Joke van Erkelens
 
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Does this help?

I assume it is the same species as this: http://www.flickr...4/sizes/o/
That's why I thought Delia, I might be worng.
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Yes...there are some hairs between the notopleurals
I'm also thinking of Paregle (probable audacula)
Katepisternal whole with long fine hairs + prealar short+lower calypter about same (bit more) as upper calypter + no strong costal spine + propleuron bare...and strong av in middle on t2 !!

I think.....I'm right Grin

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Hey Joke, thank you.

Could you take another look at this and see if you agree that it is the same species? It is from the same location.

http://diptera.in...d_id=23822

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I tend to say..seems also Paregle, but don't see a strong anteroventral on mid of t2 and hairs between neutopleura also not visible.
Two days ago i collect also a simulair fly, but til now i stil can't get a right ID...also female Shock
I'm looking to find the male, but not found yet....and weather is going below 0 degree,....so not much change now anymore.
Safe it for now as unsertain Paregle sp.

Joke Smile
 
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