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neprisikiski	#1 Posted on 07-12-2009 18:27
Member Location: Lithuania Posts: 876 Joined: 23.02.09	Hello, It is probably Campylocheta fuscinervis, that was abundant in Lithuania in April in recent years. Records of this species elsewhere in Europe are scarce. I have no source of newly decribed C. similis Ziegler & Shima and thats why have doabts. Thanks in advance. neprisikiski attached the following image: [116.01Kb] Edited by neprisikiski on 07-12-2009 18:47 Erikas


Zeegers	#2 Posted on 07-12-2009 19:14
Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19026 Joined: 21.07.04	HI Erikas All great finds ! C. similis = C. fuscinervis sensu Mesnil, nec Stein. The following key is given by Ziegler & Shima: all with parafacialia bare (at most 5 hairs below lowest bristle; otherwise it is praecox complex) similis: Vertex narrow, in male 0,52 - 0,62 x width of eye, in female 0,85 - 0,95. Hind tibia with 2 dorsal preapicals. fuscinervis (and confusa, for that matter) Vertex broad, in male 0,8 - 1,0 x width of an eye, in female 1,0 - 1,2 x. Hind tibia with 3 dorsal preapicals. And don't forget C. mariae Bystrowski ! (seen Tachinid Times) Good luck, hope this helps Theo


neprisikiski	#3 Posted on 07-12-2009 20:44
Member Location: Lithuania Posts: 876 Joined: 23.02.09	Dear Theo, Thanks a lot for this key! I have checked a few specimens and it they seem to be fuscinervis, but I have much more material to check. Of course, to be sure I need description of mariae.. Thanks again Erikas


neprisikiski	#4 Posted on 08-12-2009 17:03
Member Location: Lithuania Posts: 876 Joined: 23.02.09	I have asked description of Campylocheta mariae at Cezary Bystrowski and it is actually in the inepta complex, so the question no longer arises, fuscinervis it is! Erikas


Jaakko	#5 Posted on 08-12-2009 20:13
Member Location: Joensuu, Finland Posts: 479 Joined: 04.08.08	Thanks for posting this up, Erikas. I have completely neglected similis. I checked my specimens, all fuscinervis. I found the species new for Finland in 2005.. Also seemed locally numerous here, but haven't seen it since. Two locations known from Finland. Still waiting for mariae to appear here.


Zeegers	#6 Posted on 08-12-2009 21:04
Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19026 Joined: 21.07.04	Erikas Thanks for sharing the results ! Jaakko You mean, you are personally still waiting for mariae ? It has been found by Tiensuu in Finnish Karelia, see Tachinid Times some years ago. Surely you know ? Theo


neprisikiski	#7 Posted on 09-12-2009 00:17
Member Location: Lithuania Posts: 876 Joined: 23.02.09	Well guys, I think I foud Campylocheta mariae as well, but Cezary must see it first.. Theo, I thought that Karelia was "liberated" from Finland by Russia Edited by neprisikiski on 09-12-2009 00:30 Erikas


Zeegers	#8 Posted on 09-12-2009 07:54
Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19026 Joined: 21.07.04	Hi Erikas You are right. Tiensuu lived at the Finnish site of the (current) border, but his material of mariae was collected as the Russian site. See http://www.nadsdi...s/TT19.pdf Theo Edited by ChrisR on 09-12-2009 10:11


Jaakko	#9 Posted on 09-12-2009 09:37
Member Location: Joensuu, Finland Posts: 479 Joined: 04.08.08	Yes, the article is familiar... During the war Tiensuu was on a commission in Kentj�rvi, which was actually Russian but temporarily "liberated" for few years by Finns. Also all the C. "karelica" material are from the Russian side of the old border. Kolatselk� was quite close to the border though. So officially the species has never been found within any recognized borders of Finland. I'm sure the air must be swarming of them in the South-Eastern part of the country in the spring...