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 Flies on a dead dog - Part 9
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| Gordon |
Posted on 01-12-2009 13:18
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 Member Location: Lake Kerkini, Greece Posts: 1101 Joined: 02.01.08 |
I caught some of these yesterday, and managed to photograph them today, just, the new ring-flash highly over-exposed everything, or the camera did with the flash. Quite a bit smaller than C. furcata but also with spines along the wing like a small Heleomyzid or a largish Trixoscelidid
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| Gordon |
Posted on 01-12-2009 13:19
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Member Location: Lake Kerkini, Greece Posts: 1101 Joined: 02.01.08 |
I am sorry the photos are not so good - the new flash also seems to have had an effect on the autofocus
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 01-12-2009 13:35
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Indeed, a heleomyzid for Andrzej
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 01-12-2009 21:16
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2422 Joined: 05.01.06 |
Neoleria sp. ! I will write more tomorrow because I'm very tired 
Edited by Andrzej on 01-12-2009 21:16 dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Environmental Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences |
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| Jaakko |
Posted on 02-12-2009 08:57
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 Member Location: Joensuu, Finland Posts: 479 Joined: 04.08.08 |
Out of curiosity: what is the best literature to id this family? I have tried with Bei-Bienko, but (once again) it does not seem to have all the species on the finnish check-list. |
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 02-12-2009 09:28
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2422 Joined: 05.01.06 |
I'm using original papers of Czerny: 1927: 53a. Helomyzidae, 53b. Trichoscelidae und 53c. Chiromyidae, in: Die Fliegen der palaearktischen Region unter Mitwirkung zahlreicher Fachgelehrter hrsg. v. Erwin Lindner, Stuttgart and his monography from 1924: Monographie der Helomyziden. Abhandlung der Zoologischen-Botanischen Gesellschaft in Wien, 15(1): 1–166. (but it is originally in German !). A key to UK Heleomyzidae was made by Collin J.E. in 1943: The British species of Helomyzidae. Ent. Monthly Mag. 79: 234-251 
dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Environmental Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences |
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| Gordon |
Posted on 02-12-2009 11:42
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Member Location: Lake Kerkini, Greece Posts: 1101 Joined: 02.01.08 |
Neolaria flavicornis is the only member of that genus on my list so fsr - lets hope it is something different. Andrzej - does the above mean you have an interest in Chironomids?????? Get you Diptera Calandar at http://www.cafepress.com/TTMshop Gordon Edited by Gordon on 02-12-2009 11:45 |
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 02-12-2009 12:48
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2422 Joined: 05.01.06 |
It's Neoleria ruficornis 
dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Environmental Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences |
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| Gordon |
Posted on 02-12-2009 14:32
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Member Location: Lake Kerkini, Greece Posts: 1101 Joined: 02.01.08 |
Hi Andrzej - There is no Neoleria ruficornis in Fauna Europeae - only N. ruficauda, N. ruficeps or N. fuscicornis or other names even less similar. Could you tell me the authority please. Also F.E. has a Morpholeria ruficornis (Meigen, 1830) - perhaps this is it. And Andrzej - you are the taxonomic specialist named for this group in F.E. 
Edited by Gordon on 02-12-2009 14:34 Gordon |
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| Stephen R |
Posted on 02-12-2009 14:33
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 Member Location: Clitheroe Lancashire UK Posts: 2396 Joined: 12.06.09 |
Gordon wrote: [does the above mean you have an interest in Chironomids?????? Gordon Chiromyidae Gordon, not Chironomidae. Fauna Eur. spells them Chyromyidae (another of Robineau-Desvory's excentricities )Stephen. Edited by Stephen R on 02-12-2009 14:35 |
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| Gordon |
Posted on 02-12-2009 14:35
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Member Location: Lake Kerkini, Greece Posts: 1101 Joined: 02.01.08 |
Stephen R wrote: Gordon wrote: [does the above mean you have an interest in Chironomids?????? Gordon Chiromyidae Gordon, not Chironomidae. Fauna Eur. spells them Chyromyidae (another of Robineau-Desvoiry's excentricities )Stephen. AHHHHHHHHHHH
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 02-12-2009 15:02
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2422 Joined: 05.01.06 |
oops, My Fault. N. ruficeps 
dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Environmental Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences |
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| Gordon |
Posted on 03-12-2009 10:28
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Member Location: Lake Kerkini, Greece Posts: 1101 Joined: 02.01.08 |
Thanks Andrzej
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| Gordon |
Posted on 03-12-2009 11:11
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Member Location: Lake Kerkini, Greece Posts: 1101 Joined: 02.01.08 |
Ijust checked F.E. according to them Neoleria ruficeps is a new record for Greece as well as the 1,794th fly on my survey list.
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