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 Different Pipiza sp. for ID
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| Marion Friedrich |
Posted on 12-11-2009 21:56
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Member Location: Saxony, Germany Posts: 1172 Joined: 07.10.09 |
Is a species ID possible? Pictures were taken in Germany, Chemnitz. The 1st photo is from June and the next two from July. I guess the female could be P. quadrimaculata, but more than 10 species in Germany. Are the next two P. bimaculata or do they belong to different species? Thanks, Marion Marion Friedrich attached the following image:  [119.08Kb] Edited by Marion Friedrich on 13-11-2009 07:39 |
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| Marion Friedrich |
Posted on 12-11-2009 21:57
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Member Location: Saxony, Germany Posts: 1172 Joined: 07.10.09 |
2nd fly
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| Marion Friedrich |
Posted on 12-11-2009 21:58
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Member Location: Saxony, Germany Posts: 1172 Joined: 07.10.09 |
3rd fly
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| Marion Friedrich |
Posted on 13-11-2009 07:19
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Member Location: Saxony, Germany Posts: 1172 Joined: 07.10.09 |
After searching in FaunaEU I think it is better to attach also the last two specimen. Is it P. austriaca on the 4rd picture? Marion Friedrich attached the following image:  [116.34Kb] |
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| Marion Friedrich |
Posted on 13-11-2009 07:22
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Member Location: Saxony, Germany Posts: 1172 Joined: 07.10.09 |
5th picture This looks for me like quadrimaculata. Am I right? Marion Friedrich attached the following image:  [108.81Kb] |
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| Andre |
Posted on 15-11-2009 15:36
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 Member Location: Tilburg, the Netherlands Posts: 2111 Joined: 18.07.04 |
1. I agree 2. bimaculata/noctiluca 3. can't ID it.. do you have a lateral view of this one? 4. I agree 5. I agree |
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| Marion Friedrich |
Posted on 15-11-2009 16:47
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Member Location: Saxony, Germany Posts: 1172 Joined: 07.10.09 |
Thank you, Andre. It was very windy and so pictures are not very clear. I hope this view and the next one can help. Unfortunately it is not completely lateral. Marion Marion Friedrich attached the following image:  [114.92Kb] |
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| Marion Friedrich |
Posted on 15-11-2009 16:48
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Member Location: Saxony, Germany Posts: 1172 Joined: 07.10.09 |
2nd picture
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| Andre |
Posted on 15-11-2009 21:13
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Member Location: Tilburg, the Netherlands Posts: 2111 Joined: 18.07.04 |
These pics are very good, because we can see the tarsae very well. And it confirmed my hunch, they are almost all very yellow! Still, because Pipiza is extremely variable, it is still very difficult, especially from a picture. But for the moment, I would say it is a male P. fenestrata. |
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| Marion Friedrich |
Posted on 16-11-2009 22:05
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Member Location: Saxony, Germany Posts: 1172 Joined: 07.10.09 |
Thanks, Andre. In the next days I will load the pictures up (as Pipiza cf. fenestrata), because this species is not in the gallery. Marion |
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