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Which Gymnosoma sp. ?
skero74
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Posted on 16-10-2009 08:43
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Bibbona Livorno (Italy). Date: 04/06/2008
Hello,
can i determine the species of this Gymnosoma or is it not possible from the picture? Thanks

Roberto
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I'd say it is impossible, considering your southern location and the single angle. If you have more angles and more close-ups of the fly then it might help Smile
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I have only this close up
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They all look like rotunda to me, but then that's the only one of the 13 I've seen. (meaning I'm at least 92.308% ignorant here.
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Gordon wrote:
They all look like rotunda (sic - rotundatum) to me

Join the club! Grin But that is really the problem ... the features used to identify them are either variable (dusting) or not conclusive (genitalia are identical in many species). You are left wondering if the dusting pattern is enough or whether hairs on the mesoscutum are erect or prone, long or short ... and to me they always look the same! Wink

Of course, with a specimen they are often possible to identify ... but it is never 'easy' Smile
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