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 Sciomyza testacea, Sciomyzidae
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| JariF |
Posted on 27-09-2009 16:00
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 Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 2072 Joined: 20.01.06 |
Hi, I wonder if this Pherbellia is just dubia ? Third segment of antenna is very dark, not just the tip. September 6.2009 Helsinki, Finland. Jari JariF attached the following image:  [144.26Kb] Edited by JariF on 07-02-2011 08:59 |
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| JariF |
Posted on 29-09-2009 19:30
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 2072 Joined: 20.01.06 |
Nobody knows ? |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 29-09-2009 22:09
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9559 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Jari, I'd check Sciomyza testacea. If so - rare fly...
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| JariF |
Posted on 30-09-2009 16:07
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 2072 Joined: 20.01.06 |
Thank's Nikita. Sciomyza yes but Kahis was thinkin a bit more common species Sciomyza sebezhica Przhiboro, 2001 I will show him the specimen next week so we will know then. Something new and exotic for me anyway  Jari |
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| JariF |
Posted on 05-10-2009 16:58
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 2072 Joined: 20.01.06 |
Hi, I was visiting Kahis today and now we have a name: Sciomyza sebezhica Przhiboro, 2001 Not very common fly at all Jari |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 24-07-2010 19:34
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9559 Joined: 24.05.05 |
I insist on S. testacea. I don’t doubt Kahis’s ID, but I doubt that S. sebezhica does exist. The species described by single male holotype. Well, sometime it is possible. Przhiboro gived 2 characters in diagnosis: 1. Male terminalia distinctive. Distinctive from whom? Only terminalia of S. simplex are given! But nobody doubts that simplex differs from testacea. But drawing of terminalia of testacea not given. Neither explained what the difference between terminalia of sebezhica and testacea is. 2. t1 with only 1 dorsal preapical. Good! And other 2 female specimens reared together have 2 dorsal preapical and than belong to testacea! A ridiculous character, doesn’t it? So, sebezhica should be a synonym of testacea. And I formally publish this my opinion in next suitable article. Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| JariF |
Posted on 25-07-2010 04:04
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 2072 Joined: 20.01.06 |
Interesting. Let's wait and see what will happen Jari |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 06-02-2011 23:59
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9559 Joined: 24.05.05 |
I published my opinion that S. sebezhica is a junior synonym of S. testacea here: http://www.biosoi.../N-220.pdf P.S. Here I'd like to add these two sentences cut down by the editor: The synonymy of Sciomyza sebezhica Przhiboro, 2001 is proposed without examination of the holotype. I consider it needless because I do not call in question any characters given in the original description of T. sebezhica, but I do not regard these characters taxonomically significant. EDIT Paul Beuk: pdf link made clickable. Edited by Paul Beuk on 07-02-2011 11:00 Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| JariF |
Posted on 07-02-2011 08:58
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 2072 Joined: 20.01.06 |
Ok Nikita, this case seems to be closed I have Sciomyza testacea instead of sebezhica. I hope Jere will read this too and do corrections to our list of species. The picture in the gallery needs a new name too. Jari |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 07-02-2011 12:20
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Gallery image has been dealt with.  Now to classify my Greek Sciomyza specimen. Might be something new...
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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