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Carnidae? NE Hungary, Sept
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 Hi! I think I found some Carnids! They are a bit under 2 mms. On animal dropping. Male:
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 female. Look the nice yellow halteres!
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 Correct. Some Meoneura
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 Thanks! The male is so small, that I'mafraid if I tried do cut terminalia off and put it in KOH I'd destroy it, so I think I1ll cut the whole abdomen off. But later, now I have hundreds of fresh specimens of every kind (atrhropods mainly), so no time for microscope...
 
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 Hi, can this Carnid be determined? What is that appendage?
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 I'll ask Andrey Ozerov Angry
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 Irina Brake should be able to tell you as well.
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 Andrey needs lateral view of genitalia and frons colour.
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 Thank You, I'll make lateral shots at weekend (the thing just did not want to show the side...). All the head was black.
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 Hi, I made new pics, hopefully they help!
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 According Andrey Ozerov it is
M. cf. pseudotriangularis L.Papp
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 Thank You very much and many thanks for Andrey Ozerov. When was it described? How could it be more sure?

Again, I found a species decribed by Papp Smile
 
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 PS: Too bad, Dr. Papp does not seem to use his email-adress... So I can't ask him about his opinion.
 
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 I did someresearch on this one, and I managed to find the article in University Library describing this species:

Papp, L. Milichiidae and Carnidae (Diptera) from Mongolia. (1976) Acta Zool. Acad. Sci. Hun. 22 (3-4) 369-387.

Holotype male: Central aimak: Ulan-Baator, Nucht im Bogdo ul, 12 km SE vom Zentrum, 1650 m, 3. VI, 1967 (Nr. 762), Dr. Z. Kaszab.

It has a middle-long secription, so far I can tell that halters of my specimens are consistent to the description. But tarsal joints should be black. Genitalie more or less fit, but now I see that I will have t make new photos of them, maybe clear it a bit more in NaOH. Also, pics of frons are needed.

I'm really excited aboute this specimen, it may be a new species to the family of Europe! AFAIK, it is known only by the holotype from Mongolia Grin
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