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Posted on 24-09-2009 11:46
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Hello,

it might be not possible but can this hoverfly be identified from this picture?

Loc. & date: 19.08.09 Germany, moistly meadow, about 300 msm
Size ABOUT 8-12 mm.

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Sorry for the poor docu quality :-(.

Thanks and greetings

Wahrmut

EDIT Paul Beuk: Linked to the original image. Wink.
Edited by Paul Beuk on 29-09-2009 09:55
 
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This may well be a male Cheilosia latifrons/griseiventris.
 
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Posted on 24-09-2009 12:49
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Wow, that was extremely fast - thanks a lot!

One more question:
Is Cheilosia latifrons an Ch. griseiventris the same species with a different name?
I could not find further information about it.

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Wahrmut
 
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I am sorry... No, latifrons is a species-complex. But this will be solved in near future. For some years already griseiventris is assumed to be a separate species, being split off of latifrons. But they will not easily be ID'd based on a picture. That's why I mentioned them both Smile
 
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Posted on 28-09-2009 09:55
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Hi Andre,

sorry, I'm late with my reply - and thanks for your explanation.
So it will be the best to ID it just as a Cheilosia sp.?
What do you recommend?

Cheers

Wahrmut
 
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Make it cf latifrons
 
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Andre wrote:
Make it cf latifrons


Sorry for all this questions, but what means the shortcut 'cf'?
 
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It means that you are not confident of identification. It comes from latin, but I forgot the meaning myself. I will have to look that up...
 
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Ok, I got it!
But is there anything wrong with Cheilosia sp.?

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No Smile
 
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Ok, thanks for all your help, Andre.

Cheers

Wahrmut
 
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