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 fly on Rhododendron bush
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| Toby |
Posted on 17-09-2009 14:45
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 Member Location: SW LONDON Posts: 552 Joined: 12.01.07 |
would like an ID please. SW London, woodland park.
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| Stephen R |
Posted on 17-09-2009 14:56
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 Member Location: Clitheroe Lancashire UK Posts: 2396 Joined: 12.06.09 |
How about Platypalpus in Hybotidae? perhaps minutus? (This is a guess - I know nothing!) |
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| Roger Thomason |
Posted on 17-09-2009 15:40
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 Member Location: Mossbank,Shetland Isles. Posts: 5268 Joined: 17.07.08 |
Stephen R wrote: How about Platypalpus in Hybotidae? perhaps minutus? (This is a guess - I know nothing!) True. TRUE..  .PHORIDAE...Scuttle fly. Or Sphaeroceridae...I always mix them up.Try and EDIT/DELETE that one Stephen .  .Regards Roger... EDIT; Change heading to attract the attention of Brian Brown or other Phoridae experts. Assuming I'm right of course. Never hear the end of it, otherwise.....Sphaeroceridae...aghhhhh Bit of a mixed message...hmmm. Been embarrassed before...1 more isn't going to hurt...
Edited by Roger Thomason on 17-09-2009 16:26 |
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| Stephen R |
Posted on 17-09-2009 16:27
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Member Location: Clitheroe Lancashire UK Posts: 2396 Joined: 12.06.09 |
I'll take that one on the chin! Actually I don't feel TOO bad about being Completely Wrong, knowing that I am following in the footsteps of the Masters  . (I know where they keep the archives, Roger!) |
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| Roger Thomason |
Posted on 17-09-2009 16:41
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Member Location: Mossbank,Shetland Isles. Posts: 5268 Joined: 17.07.08 |
There have been a few ..damn those archives. Sclaterscrae  . |
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| Jan Willem |
Posted on 18-09-2009 07:43
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 Member Location: Waalwijk, The Netherlands Posts: 2158 Joined: 24.07.04 |
Phoridae is correct. You're way beyond the guessing stage Roger
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| Roger Thomason |
Posted on 18-09-2009 07:55
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Member Location: Mossbank,Shetland Isles. Posts: 5268 Joined: 17.07.08 |
I guess you wouldn't want to bet a lot of money on it though JW. Roger....I guess  Well at least I don't have to hide under the stairs for a week, with embarrassment.......again. Edited by Roger Thomason on 18-09-2009 08:05 |
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| bbrown |
Posted on 06-11-2009 05:16
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Member Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 103 Joined: 17.02.05 |
Peromitra sp. (yes, Phoridae).
Brian Brown Entomology NH Museum of Los Angeles Co. |
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| Roger Thomason |
Posted on 06-11-2009 06:08
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Member Location: Mossbank,Shetland Isles. Posts: 5268 Joined: 17.07.08 |
Thank you Brian....not for myself, but good to see this thread re-appearing again...Happy days on the old Quote Button eh Stephen Sclaterscrae Senior |
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| Stephen R |
Posted on 06-11-2009 10:52
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Member Location: Clitheroe Lancashire UK Posts: 2396 Joined: 12.06.09 |
Just when I thought it was safe to come out from under the stairs |
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| phil withers |
Posted on 07-11-2009 21:47
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Member Location: Lyon, France Posts: 521 Joined: 04.03.08 |
I'm pretty certain that, barring a name change somewhere, Peromitra is not a British genus. |
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| bbrown |
Posted on 08-11-2009 04:57
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Member Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 103 Joined: 17.02.05 |
Phil: Species of Peromitra were previously part of Borophaga. I have given evidence (3 synapomorphic characters) that Peromitra species are more closely related to Stichillus than to Borophaga, and therefore raised them in rank to a genus. My colleague Henry Disney doesn't agree, although he has not refuted my three characters. Now we have molecular support as well (still unpublished), so there is overwhelming evidence from both morphology and DNA sequences. Brian Brian Brown Entomology NH Museum of Los Angeles Co. |
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| phil withers |
Posted on 08-11-2009 10:04
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Member Location: Lyon, France Posts: 521 Joined: 04.03.08 |
Thanks; nicely concise reply. Which of the European species (ex Borophaga) will this apply to ? |
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| bbrown |
Posted on 10-11-2009 02:28
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Member Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 103 Joined: 17.02.05 |
P. agilis, P. carinifrons, P. cephalotes, P. erythrocera, and, especially the common P. incrassata are the European ones. Brian Brian Brown Entomology NH Museum of Los Angeles Co. |
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