Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
 muscidae => cf Phaonia gobertii
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| Klaas |
Posted on 10-09-2009 20:12
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The Netherlands, Steenwijk. 4 sept 2009. 8 mm long Mydaea?Helina?? (Don't let it be Anthomyiidae  )Klaas Klaas attached the following image:  [153.72Kb] Edited by Klaas on 03-10-2009 09:57 |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 10-09-2009 20:30
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It looks like Phaonia gobertii, but I need more elements : the prealar seems broken on this side, and seems to be present and long on the other side (on the background), but I'm not sure. Do you have a picture of the other side ?
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| Klaas |
Posted on 10-09-2009 21:10
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Stephane Lebrun wrote: It looks like Phaonia gobertii, but I need more elements : the prealar seems broken on this side, and seems to be present and long on the other side (on the background), but I'm not sure. Do you have a picture of the other side ? Not of the other side, but i believe to see on the original sized pic below this prealar - not broken but just poorly developed?? Klaas attached the following image:  [175.9Kb] |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 10-09-2009 21:30
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Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
It is prone but developped, at least I can see it till the supra-alar base. I still think it's Phaonia gobertii. Check on your high resolution picture that arista is short plumose (hairs at most half as long as 3d antennal segment). It is always difficult to be sure of anything with a photo...
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| Klaas |
Posted on 11-09-2009 08:21
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I think the arista is plumose enough ! (i allways believe you in the first place  )Thanks for comments/id's Klaas Klaas attached the following image:  [144.77Kb] |
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