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 Cinochira atra (Tachinidae) ID by neprisikiski
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| lagura |
Posted on 10-07-2009 10:52
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 Member Location: Helsingborg, Sweden Posts: 1241 Joined: 24.10.08 |
Don't know what this could be. Any ideas? Size: ~3mm Date: 13 June 2009 Location: On wooden railing around a pond (Helsingborg, Sweden) Thanks! EDIT: Title changed from "Another small, dark fly" lagura attached the following image:  [139.12Kb] Edited by lagura on 10-07-2009 19:53  |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 10-07-2009 11:31
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Calyptrate, either Muscidae or Anthomyiidae.
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| Xespok |
Posted on 10-07-2009 15:50
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 Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5551 Joined: 02.03.05 |
Why not a small Scathophagidae? I think I posted this or a similar species, but did never get a response.
Gabor Keresztes Japan Wildlife Gallery Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery |
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| neprisikiski |
Posted on 10-07-2009 16:50
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Member Location: Lithuania Posts: 876 Joined: 23.02.09 |
or even tachinidae, Cinochira atra
Erikas |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 10-07-2009 18:12
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 Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
Once again. Bravo.
Stephane. |
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| lagura |
Posted on 10-07-2009 19:52
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Member Location: Helsingborg, Sweden Posts: 1241 Joined: 24.10.08 |
Thank you all very much!
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 10-07-2009 20:15
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Conclusion: Cinochira atra is much more common than it was thought |
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| Jaakko |
Posted on 10-07-2009 20:22
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 Member Location: Joensuu, Finland Posts: 479 Joined: 04.08.08 |
jorgemotalmeida wrote: Conclusion: Cinochira atra is much more common than it was thought It comes almost to Lapland up here. Probably overlooked because of its size. I haven't collected it myself yet...   |
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| lagura |
Posted on 10-07-2009 22:38
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Member Location: Helsingborg, Sweden Posts: 1241 Joined: 24.10.08 |
Interesting. I took this photo a week earlier. Same place. Is it also a C. atra? lagura attached the following image:  [125.44Kb] |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 10-07-2009 22:39
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
yes. Again Cinochira atra!!! |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 10-07-2009 23:00
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 Super Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7703 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Great photos!  I haven't seen it here either and UK records are very scarce - probably due to its small size
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 10-07-2009 23:22
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Chris you have this in your garden.  |
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| lagura |
Posted on 10-07-2009 23:51
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Member Location: Helsingborg, Sweden Posts: 1241 Joined: 24.10.08 |
Thanks! Yes, it's small. I wonder how many times I have walked past it. Oh well, doesn't matter now!
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 10-07-2009 23:52
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Tell me: did you find these C. atra in shadowy places? |
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| lagura |
Posted on 11-07-2009 00:07
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Member Location: Helsingborg, Sweden Posts: 1241 Joined: 24.10.08 |
Well, yes and no. It's a small valley with a creek and lots of high decideous trees. Some parts are sunny and some shadowy. Which depends on the time of day. As I recall these two where both in a sort of semi shadowed part of the wooden railing. There is also quite a lot of people walking, or jogging, around, or feeding the ducks I've seen lots of different flies there, practically everything from tiny Chloropids to big Asilidaes
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 11-07-2009 00:12
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
that's precisely the conditions I spotted the C. atra in Buçaco! |
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| Jaakko |
Posted on 11-07-2009 19:36
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Member Location: Joensuu, Finland Posts: 479 Joined: 04.08.08 |
The specimen I have is from a malaise trap in a lakeshore forest, likely matching the description! Jaakko |
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| lagura |
Posted on 12-07-2009 00:52
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Member Location: Helsingborg, Sweden Posts: 1241 Joined: 24.10.08 |
Here is a photo (taken today) of a part of the area I described above. The latest C. atra was found not too far from that little hut (or whatever it's called) and on the same side.
lagura attached the following image:  [161.82Kb] |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 12-07-2009 08:51
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
this fits precisely the place where I saw C. atra. Here the famous Buçaco mountain. It has an unique flora (like big arboreal ferns - here in the photo you see the small ones.) . And I saw the fly in the upperside of the photo - about 100 m from it. On the table. Go here: http://farm1.stat...5931_b.jpg (photo is not mine) |
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