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Posted on 24-06-2009 18:23
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Hi, I wish to show two forms of "Phaonia mystica" and to ask, if they are different species.
This one has much longer flagellomere, longhaired arista and abdomen with iridescent spots:
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The second has shorter flagellomere, shorthaired arista and abdomen evenly dusted, probubly an unusual form, but equally common in Lithuania:
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Thanks for any suggestions
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Only one suggestion: nobody will help you - this part of the way one has to go alone...
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notopleuron of the second species
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This single setula above hind notopleural bristle is broken in many specimens, what made me go up to mystica. They actually were Phaonia profugax, not commonly recorded from the other countries
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Maybe strange....but did you check if the second fly, isn't Anthomyiidae.

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Oh yes, I didnt explain, in the first picture is Phaonia mystica with completely bare notopleuron and in the second picture is Phaonia profugax with hairy notopleuron, only the single hairlet is often broken. In the third picture I show notopleuron of the other Phaonia profugax specimen with two hairlets, but the second is broken (posterior)
Edited by neprisikiski on 01-08-2009 19:54
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