Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
 Ceranthia tristella, Tachinidae
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| JariF |
Posted on 04-06-2009 08:47
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 Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 2072 Joined: 20.01.06 |
Hi, this small Tachinidae was on the way to Siphona unit before I had a closer look. Maybe Ceranthia  ? June 3.2009 Loviisa, Finland.Jari JariF attached the following image:  [141.34Kb] Edited by JariF on 06-01-2010 10:33 |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 04-06-2009 18:44
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19298 Joined: 21.07.04 |
I cannot see the palps, but the third antennal segment is huge, strongly suggestion Ceranthia verralli male. Theo |
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| JariF |
Posted on 04-06-2009 19:03
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 2072 Joined: 20.01.06 |
Ok, in our list it's Aphantorhaphopsis verralli. It really looks a lot like it. What abouth the palps ? Jari |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 04-06-2009 19:33
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19298 Joined: 21.07.04 |
I am conservative and not yet convinced of the relevance of Aphantoraphopsis. In any case, since verralli belongs to this group, the palpi should be 'normal', so not extremely slender. and now I have had a better look at the first pic: the palpi are filiform, implying Ceranthia ss. So Ceranthia lichtwardtiana is my current suggestion Theo |
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| JariF |
Posted on 05-06-2009 08:59
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 2072 Joined: 20.01.06 |
I add here a picture of lichtwardtiana to compare. The antennae is differend, humerus yellow etc. I don't know if these are important and this goes to the box with Your name on it again  Jari JariF attached the following image:  [149.2Kb] |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 05-06-2009 09:10
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19298 Joined: 21.07.04 |
The colours are not that important, but the antenna is completely different. SO, have a look yourself at the palpi, are they similar (filiform) of very different ? SO we can fix the subgenus. Theo |
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| JariF |
Posted on 05-06-2009 09:49
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 2072 Joined: 20.01.06 |
There is a minor proble. My flies are back home and I will go there after two months or so  Only thing I have here are the pictures and new flies, so we must close this case temporarely Jari |
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| JariF |
Posted on 06-01-2010 10:33
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 2072 Joined: 20.01.06 |
This one is in fact Ceranthia tristella. A rare species in Finland and I think Chris will understand why  Det by Theo again.Jari |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 06-01-2010 21:55
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19298 Joined: 21.07.04 |
with the connotation, that nobody really understands the difference between lichtwardtiana and tristella. Tristella might be just a morph of lichtwardtiana. On the other hand, the species is by Herting, who I consider to have been extremely good and precise. So no final opinion from my part. Theo |
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