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Fighting flies: Clusiidae? (20.05.09) --> Chymomyza (Drosophilidae)
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Hello!

I found many of these small (2.5-3 mm) flies on a pile of beech wood in the forest last Wednesday (northwest Germany). I have seen the rivalling Clusiids in the gallery, but these don't match any of them. So I am not even sure, into which family to put them? Can anybody help me? Thanks!
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Chymomyza, Drosophilidae
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Hello, Paul!

Paul Beuk wrote:
Chymomyza, Drosophilidae


Oh, that's interesting, thanks! They reminded me spontaneously of the rivaling and "dancing" Drosophilas here at my fruit baits, but were much more slender.
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Should be either C. distincta or C. fuscimana. Larvae of both species have been found under the bark of beeches.
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As far as I can access this should be fuscimana.
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Paul wrote:
As far as I can access this should be fuscimana.


I thought C. distincta and C. fuscimana could only be identified by studying the genitalia.
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In the material I have seen the costal cell in C. fuscimana is clear, in distincta it is darkened...
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Hello, Jan Willem and Paul!

Jan Willem wrote:
Should be either C. distincta or C. fuscimana. Larvae of both species have been found under the bark of beeches.


Many thanks for your detailed replies. Beeches and beech wood we have enough here... Wink
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