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 Stratiomyidae pupa from ant's nest, Hungary
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| pwalter |
Posted on 12-04-2009 14:59
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 Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
Hi, this pupa was under a stone where an ant species made it's nest. Around 9 mm long. April, NE Hungary
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| caliprobola |
Posted on 12-04-2009 15:11
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Member Location: Belgium Posts: 203 Joined: 24.05.07 |
Clitellaria ephippium is the only NW-European soldier fly of which larvae live in ants' nests as far as i know, i don't know if there are other species in Central-Europe that have the same kind of ecology. |
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| pwalter |
Posted on 12-04-2009 15:15
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
Thank You! And hat if it was only accidentally under the rock? Or is that unlikely because ant's would have eaten any other pupa? |
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| caliprobola |
Posted on 12-04-2009 19:36
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Member Location: Belgium Posts: 203 Joined: 24.05.07 |
I'm not an expert at all in soldier flies nor their larvae but i think most larvae that live in the ground, live in rather moist conditions where there's a lot of organic material. The pupa looks rather typical, as Clitellaria is a real specialist living in ants' nests i guess there should be some literature describing the larva and/or pupa. |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 12-04-2009 21:10
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 Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7193 Joined: 19.11.04 |
I don't think this is Clitellaria - the shape of the last segment is not right. I think it us more likely to be Chloromyia or a similar species. Remember that Stratiomyiidae are like many other flies - the pupa is actually formed within the last larval skin - the puparium, so features of the last instar larva are usually visible on the puparium.
Tony ---------- Tony Irwin |
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| atylotus |
Posted on 29-05-2009 14:10
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 Member Location: Amsterdam, NL Posts: 1120 Joined: 29.05.09 |
It can't be Clitellaria as Rozkozny (1973) gives a lenght of 25-32 mm for the mature larvae. It looks more like a Pachygasterinae or Sarginae (in this case Microchrysa or Chloromyia, not Sargus) |
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| pwalter |
Posted on 18-06-2009 21:20
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
Hi, this larva became adult, I show photos in adult forum.
Edited by pwalter on 18-06-2009 21:25 |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 20-06-2009 11:53
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Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7193 Joined: 19.11.04 |
Good to have a result - you could post this in the gallery now!
Tony ---------- Tony Irwin |
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but don't see the image in the post.
