Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
 Heleomyzidae and Stratiomyidae
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| WolfiG |
Posted on 24-03-2009 11:40
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Member Location: South of Austria Posts: 2 Joined: 13.03.09 |
Hello everyone! i am new. is it possible to identify this flies? http://gallery.ku...emId=29607 the first i think is a muscidae, the last a stratiomyidae. thx Wolfi Edited by WolfiG on 24-03-2009 14:37 |
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| Jan Willem |
Posted on 24-03-2009 12:27
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 Member Location: Waalwijk, The Netherlands Posts: 2169 Joined: 24.07.04 |
Hello Wolfgang, The first one belongs to the family Heleomyzidae. You could change the subject to attract the attention of the heleomyzid-specialists. Jan Willem van Zuijlen |
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 24-03-2009 16:41
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2431 Joined: 05.01.06 |
1.2 = male of Suillia cf. umbratica
dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Environmental Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences |
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| katerina dvorakova |
Posted on 24-03-2009 18:44
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 Member Location: Czech Republic Posts: 399 Joined: 25.03.08 |
Hi Wolfi and Andrzej, I think Suillia affinis, because antenae are not darkened enough, and there are 30-30 seta at the scutellum. Katka |
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 24-03-2009 20:22
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2431 Joined: 05.01.06 |
Hi !, and what about the supracervical setulae ? Dark or yellow :-) ? P.S. The number of scutellar hairs is not a good character for ID to the species level ! Edited by Andrzej on 24-03-2009 20:48 dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Environmental Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences |
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| katerina dvorakova |
Posted on 24-03-2009 22:37
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Member Location: Czech Republic Posts: 399 Joined: 25.03.08 |
Hi, this diagnostic follows Papps' key. I have seen plenty of specimen of both species and I am sure, that this diagnostic mark is correct and useful. Katka |
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 24-03-2009 23:08
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2431 Joined: 05.01.06 |
Dear Katerina. You wrote: ... 30-30 seta at the scutellum! and plenty.... For a while I verified five specimens , one from Poland, two from Russia and two from Turkey !. The number of setulae varied from 26-33 on each of sides !. Did you translate and verify the Papp key correctly ? Best wishes, Andrzej P.S. I awas not convinced if it was S. umbratica but I cannot agree with your arguments ! Edited by Andrzej on 24-03-2009 23:12 dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Environmental Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences |
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| WolfiG |
Posted on 25-03-2009 08:37
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Member Location: South of Austria Posts: 2 Joined: 13.03.09 |
Hello1 thanks for all answers so far. |
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