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paqui
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Posted on 16-03-2009 21:12
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Hello, I supose my doubt is not easy, ´cause I´m interested n spanish species´ keys and descriptions. Though they´re absent for the most of families, I keep on buying others hoping one day I´ll have enough for this species. Here it is my wish-list:
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- Muscidae: I´ve got Faune de france (oh my!) and a very nice book from central Europe (Folia) (i haven´t foundt the RES one, it´s out of print)
- Anthomyiidae: Faune de France (again, oh my!)
I´m wondering if Lindner´s books are out of date, because they would become a big amount of money

* Sarcophagidae: I´ve got Pape´s one (much too nordic for me), Lehrer´s one (much too Eastern and with no Miltogrammiinae) and one for Ethiopic Miltogrammiinae, Do yo know any other book for here? I Hope the next one I buy will be more "focused" here

* Calliphoridae: I´ve got the Calyptratae RES one, and keys for spanish Rhiniinae, Lucilliinae and Chrysomyinae, any reference for Palearctic Menalomyinae? I refuse the Lindner´s one just for three species of Calliphorinae

* Tachinidae: : (a big oh my!): The old Calyptrata and the new RES ones; the monograph for Central Europe, and Lindner´s Phasiinae and "Larvaevorinae". I would like at least having keys and descriptions enoguh for Goniini, maybe it should be searching for separated articles?

I´ll be grateful for any answer for any of them, it would be a good help, thank you very much
 
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Sarcophagidae and Calliphoridae
- SÉGUY (E.) Etude sur les mouches parasites. 1. Conopides, Oestrides et Calliphorines
de l'Europe Occidentale - 1928 - 251 p - 300 figs.
If you can get hold of this, you may find it useful, though it is a bit out of date.
Anthomyiidae - Mike Ackland's keys to the British species will help for some - it is really well illustrated, so you should have no doubts if you find one of the species covered (mostly males only).

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Muscidae - I see that there is a copy of Fonseca's RES key to Muscidae on Abebooks (from Bookbarn International in Bristol, England) - but they are charging £99 (=108 Euros) for it!!!!
Personally I think charging that much for scientific knowledge is disgusting. Sad I hope they never sell it! In the meantime, perhaps we should find out if the RES will support the production of a pdf version of this key until another edition is produced.
Tony
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Stephane Lebrun
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Sarcophagidae
The Flesh-Flies of Central Europe, (Insecta, Diptera, Sarcophagidae), Spixiana suppl. 24 - Dalibor Povolný & Yuriy Verves - 1997
Stephane.
 
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Tony said :
Muscidae - I see that there is a copy of Fonseca's RES key to Muscidae on Abebooks (from Bookbarn International in Bristol, England) - but they are charging £99 (=108 Euros) for it!!!!
Shock
I had purchased the last available one 25 £ at Pemberley books !
Edited by Stephane Lebrun on 16-03-2009 21:42
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1. Fonseca is much cheaper via Royal Entomological Soc., but to buy here is a great headache Grin
2. Fonseca is great, but Gregor's (and K) Muscidae of Central Europe is good too.
3. + Fanniidae of Europe (Gregor, Pont, Rozkosny) + the abovememtioned Fonseca for Fanniidae too
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University
 
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Posted on 16-03-2009 23:31
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wow!
- SÉGUY (E.) Etude sur les mouches parasites -> 120e, this will wait Frown
- Mike Ackland's keys: mail sendt
- Flesh flies central Europe -> ordered
- Fanniidae -> ordered

ow, this expensive lovely flies Smile
(there´s a special price for Siphonini now, 58 pounds at Pemberly)

Thank you all very much, I didn´t expect such a quick and "full" answer Grin thanks again

Thank you very much

 
andrzej grzywacz
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Posted on 17-03-2009 10:22
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Prof. Gregor key is very nice but there are some mistakes, sometimes identification is very difficult with use of this key. Some characters are wrong. I have found some time ago on Diptera.info link ( http://lrs.afpmb.org/) to the website where a lot of free articles were in pdf (also Fonseca key).
Edited by andrzej grzywacz on 17-03-2009 10:25
 
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Posted on 17-03-2009 21:29
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Thanks again everyone Smile
 
viktor j nilsson
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Hillside books has SÉGUY (E.) Etude sur les mouches parasites 1. Conopides, Oestrides et Calliphorines for GBP 52


http://www.antiqbook.com/books/viewcat.phtml?o=hill&c=Diptera&sf=http://www.antiqbook.co.uk/boox/hill/Di0017.shtml&alpha=S
 
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For your Calliphoridae I think you would find ROGNES, K, Blowflies (Diptera, Calliphoridae) of Fennoscandinavia and Denmark, FSE useful too. http://www.nhbs.c..._4959.html

I think you should get most of the species, but I see it is £106. So difficult to prioritise needs...
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Posted on 24-04-2009 22:35
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* Séguy book 52 pounds: I´ve ordered it, perhaps it helps with Polleniinae and Melanomyiinae. Thanks for the reference, Viktor

* Scandinavian books: I´ve bought 5 and they are very good; and those for European species are perfect, but, for instance, Tachydromiinae has just 14 of about 80 Platypalpus species from here. I´ve copied the link but it´ll have to wait a few months. Thanks, I love references coming from experts

Thank you very much Smile
 
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