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 Phasia with such wing venation?
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| Sundew |
Posted on 02-03-2009 20:07
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 Member Location: Berlin and Baden-Württemberg, Germany Posts: 3917 Joined: 28.07.07 |
Hi, Here is another Tachinid from last July. It has much resemblance with Phasia. The wing venation is strange, however, there is no distinct petiolus that I considered an important genus character. So what is it? Many thanks, Sundew Sundew attached the following image:  [124.45Kb] |
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| Sundew |
Posted on 02-03-2009 20:08
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Member Location: Berlin and Baden-Württemberg, Germany Posts: 3917 Joined: 28.07.07 |
Some more pics.
Sundew attached the following image:  [120.39Kb] |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 02-03-2009 21:06
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 Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
Well, with this strange wing venation this is Elomya lateralis. 
Stephane. |
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| Sundew |
Posted on 02-03-2009 21:40
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Member Location: Berlin and Baden-Württemberg, Germany Posts: 3917 Joined: 28.07.07 |
Dear Stephane, I am far from doubting your ID, but in this case the fly named Elomya lateralis in http://images.goo...l%26sa%3DN is misidentified. It has a different wing venation. |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 02-03-2009 22:02
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Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
It is misidentified, as the Phania funesta with straight M1+2...
Stephane. |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 02-03-2009 23:25
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 Super Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7703 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Many of the tachinids on that page are misidentified. The "Zophomyia temula" looks like Phyllomya volvulus; "Phania funesta femelle" is Zophomyia temula; "Elomya lateralis" looks incorrect but I am not sure what it is; and some of the "Phasia hemiptera" are Ectophasia sp.  I agree with Stephane - yours is Elomya lateralis because it has a short, forward-curving petiole on the median vein.
Edited by ChrisR on 02-03-2009 23:27 |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 02-03-2009 23:28
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 Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7286 Joined: 19.11.04 |
Not just the tachinids on that site - you’ll find opomyzids in Pallopteridae, lauxaniids and heleomyzids in Piophilidae, lauxaniids in Sciomyzidae, anthomyiids in Sarcophagidae, bibionids in Simuliidae, stratiomyids in Pipiunculidae and Platypezidae, and several genera of muscids and calliphorids are misidentifed. Stick with a quality site - use Diptera.info - a site you can trust!!!
Tony ---------- Tony Irwin |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 02-03-2009 23:35
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19008 Joined: 21.07.04 |
IN any case, Stephane is very right, this is Elomyia lateralis. Theo |
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| Roger Thomason |
Posted on 02-03-2009 23:37
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Tony...you'll be doing Adverts for Preparation H....your friendly pile cream next  .Got an itch...the cream you can trust. But you are right...this is the best site Edited by Roger Thomason on 02-03-2009 23:51 |
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| Sundew |
Posted on 03-03-2009 00:06
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Member Location: Berlin and Baden-Württemberg, Germany Posts: 3917 Joined: 28.07.07 |
Dear friends, undoubtedly you are all right, and we all proudly agree that ours is the best site of all. This is guaranteed by so many excellent collaborators from all over the world. However, I like the one cited above (though I will check and compare the data very carefully in the future - which I usually do), because there are so many explaining sketches and labeled detail photos that really help me to learn. We have some excellent overviews here, but a newcomer like me needs more information that covers the whole body of the fly and points to family characters. By the way, I like also the Anatomical Atlas of Flies (http://www.ento.c...ssary.html). So I try to get as much information as possible and rely on your kind help to correct my mistakes. Many thanks to all, Sundew |
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