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 Determination possible? (a really hard one)
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| JacobDa |
Posted on 19-01-2009 11:36
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Does anybody think it is possible to determine this deformed flies? Please let me know what methods there are and if somebody can determine if i will send the sample in. Every information is welcome More photos are available. Fly No. 1 JacobDa attached the following image:  [68.04Kb] Edited by JacobDa on 19-01-2009 11:43 |
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| pwalter |
Posted on 19-01-2009 11:44
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 Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
What is it on? |
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| JacobDa |
Posted on 19-01-2009 11:47
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Thank you for the help. Here is Fly No.2 JacobDa attached the following image:  [69.22Kb] |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 19-01-2009 12:36
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
with these details where we cannot see even the wing venation, only one leg... it is impossible to say anything. |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 19-01-2009 15:13
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 Super Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7703 Joined: 12.07.04 |
I don't even understand what we are looking at here ... are these flies preserved in a solid substrate, like amber? Where are they from (geographically)? What size are they? How old are they? As Jorge said, if you can take photos that show clearly the wing venation and head/legs etc then we might be able to get to sub-family or tribe or even genus. But with so little information you are asking too much. |
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| JacobDa |
Posted on 19-01-2009 16:59
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I'm really sorry, but it is not possible to add photos with more details. Unfortunately the fly is squashed and under a wax-film. But I guess it is from Germany or Denmark. But anyhow I want to say thank you for your contribution. Edited by JacobDa on 19-01-2009 17:03 |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 19-01-2009 21:38
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 Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7286 Joined: 19.11.04 |
Well, there's nothing some of us like better than a challenge! They are calypterate flies (Muscidae, Calliphoridae, etc). They are probably synanthropic (easy to get hold of for these preparations, whether they are accidental or deliberate) - they are of a reasonable size, and the body colouration, hind leg chaetotaxy and female ovipoistor structure are all consistent with Calliphora - I'd say they are bluebottles. Easily checked by dissolving off the wax in chloroform and comparing the remains to specimens. Anyone disagree? 
Edited by Tony Irwin on 19-01-2009 21:39 Tony ---------- Tony Irwin |
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| JacobDa |
Posted on 26-01-2009 08:11
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Member Location: Posts: 4 Joined: 16.01.09 |
Hello Tony, thanks a lot for your information. I think they can be very useful for us. And probably I can find someone nearby, who can give even more information after receiving the real samples. Thanks you. |
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