Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
 Tipulidae
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| Susan R Walter |
Posted on 06-12-2008 16:09
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 Member Location: Touraine du Sud, central France Posts: 1802 Joined: 14.01.06 |
Can anyone give a name to this nice little Tipulidae pair? Male 10mm, female 11.5mm, from 21 May 2008, lowland (<100masl) central France, la Brenne, old oak wooded heathland. Susan R Walter attached the following image:  [54.05Kb] Susan |
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| Susan R Walter |
Posted on 06-12-2008 16:10
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Member Location: Touraine du Sud, central France Posts: 1802 Joined: 14.01.06 |
Male abdomen (sorry, not very helpful angle).
Susan R Walter attached the following image:  [55.34Kb] Susan |
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| Susan R Walter |
Posted on 06-12-2008 16:11
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Member Location: Touraine du Sud, central France Posts: 1802 Joined: 14.01.06 |
Male wing.
Susan R Walter attached the following image:  [41.73Kb] Susan |
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| Susan R Walter |
Posted on 06-12-2008 16:11
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Member Location: Touraine du Sud, central France Posts: 1802 Joined: 14.01.06 |
Male head and thorax, lateral.
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| Susan R Walter |
Posted on 06-12-2008 16:13
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Member Location: Touraine du Sud, central France Posts: 1802 Joined: 14.01.06 |
Female head and thorax, dorsal.
Susan R Walter attached the following image:  [56.15Kb] Susan |
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| Susan R Walter |
Posted on 06-12-2008 16:13
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Member Location: Touraine du Sud, central France Posts: 1802 Joined: 14.01.06 |
Female wing.
Susan R Walter attached the following image:  [52.24Kb] Susan |
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| Chen Young |
Posted on 11-12-2008 18:04
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 Member Location: Pittsburgh, PENNSYLVANIA USA Posts: 169 Joined: 25.08.05 |
This looks like a pair of Limnophila species in Limoniinae (or Limoniidae). There are many subgenera in this genus and a detail study of the male genitalia is required to put name on them. Here are some related species in this genus found in North America. |
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| Susan R Walter |
Posted on 15-12-2008 13:50
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Member Location: Touraine du Sud, central France Posts: 1802 Joined: 14.01.06 |
Many thanks Chen. That's useful to know.
Susan |
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| Jean Leveque |
Posted on 15-12-2008 15:30
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Member Location: Posts: 573 Joined: 05.12.08 |
Hello, Susan and Chen! The veins here are typical of Tipulidae: see for that respect the excellent site of Alain Ramel aramel.free page 15' I also see the typical "muzzle" of Tipulidae, although not sure from the angles of the photos. Susan, could you check this from your specimen? Best regards, Jean |
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| Chen Young |
Posted on 16-12-2008 16:02
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Member Location: Pittsburgh, PENNSYLVANIA USA Posts: 169 Joined: 25.08.05 |
Hello Jean I am wonder when you used Tipulidae, do you mean Tipulidae (sensu lato) or Tipulidae (sensu stricto). If it is Tipulidae (sensu lato) then you are correct, genus Limnophila is in the family Tipulidae (sensu lato) If you used Tipulidae (sensu stricto) then you may want to click here , to see the difference between Tipulidae (sensu stricto0 and Limoniidae. Susan's image does not show the head clearly , but the antennae look more than 13 segments and the palpus are hardly visible to me. Chen |
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| Eric Fisher |
Posted on 16-12-2008 17:04
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 Member Location: California Posts: 435 Joined: 19.05.06 |
Greetings Chen, I just want to say that your "Crane Flies of Pennsylvania" website is really fantastic! Also, you have the most carefully & beautifully preserved crane fly specimens in existence. Congratulations! Best wishes & Happy Holidays, Eric |
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| kitenet |
Posted on 17-12-2008 00:22
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 Member Location: Buckinghamshire, UK Posts: 118 Joined: 04.05.06 |
Susan, if this was a UK specimen I'd be thinking Euphylidorea lineola or E. dispar, leaning towards the latter on account of the dark stigma and femora, but I don't know how many similar species there are in France. Martin Martin Harvey |
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| Jean Leveque |
Posted on 17-12-2008 09:11
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I can only second the comments on Chen's site: it is simply wonderful! Jean |
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| Susan R Walter |
Posted on 21-12-2008 12:34
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Member Location: Touraine du Sud, central France Posts: 1802 Joined: 14.01.06 |
Thanks Martin. According to FE, 5 species of Euphylidorea in France, so I will try to find out what the others look like.
Susan |
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