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| Christine Devillers |
Posted on 01-12-2008 20:10
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 Member Location: Spa, Belgium Posts: 1215 Joined: 11.11.07 |
An idea for this female ? (Belgium, 6-11-2008, size 4 mm)
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| Christine Devillers |
Posted on 01-12-2008 20:12
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Member Location: Spa, Belgium Posts: 1215 Joined: 11.11.07 |
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| Gordon |
Posted on 02-12-2008 10:06
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 Member Location: Lake Kerkini, Greece Posts: 1101 Joined: 02.01.08 |
Could have been helped by some wing venation. I am no expert but it looks like a Muscid that might be a Calliphorid. |
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| Philippe moniotte |
Posted on 02-12-2008 13:34
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 Member Location: Heron, Belgium Posts: 865 Joined: 14.10.05 |
Spilogona ???? |
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| Christine Devillers |
Posted on 02-12-2008 18:21
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Member Location: Spa, Belgium Posts: 1215 Joined: 11.11.07 |
Thanks, I add some (bad) photos for the wing venation. Vein M1 not curving forward and arista non plumose (if I see well) so not Calliphoridae. Perhaps as you say Spilosoma or as for your post Muscidae of the Spilogona - Limnophora group but I don't know the features that must be seen.....and why not a female of Anthomyiidae ? Christine Devillers attached the following image:  [117.56Kb] |
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| Christine Devillers |
Posted on 02-12-2008 18:24
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| Christine Devillers |
Posted on 02-12-2008 18:25
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 02-12-2008 20:20
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 Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
Looks Fanniidae to me.... Joke |
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| Michael Ackland |
Posted on 02-12-2008 21:46
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Member Location: Dorset UK Posts: 680 Joined: 23.02.08 |
Don't think it's an anthomyiid, head looks wrong, and squamae too large. I would guess a Spilogona oor Fannia? |
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| Christine Devillers |
Posted on 03-12-2008 20:46
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Member Location: Spa, Belgium Posts: 1215 Joined: 11.11.07 |
Does it help with those photos of the vein Sc ?
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| Christine Devillers |
Posted on 03-12-2008 20:48
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Member Location: Spa, Belgium Posts: 1215 Joined: 11.11.07 |
And on this one, it seems to have 2 pré DC ?
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| Christine Devillers |
Posted on 06-12-2008 22:57
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Member Location: Spa, Belgium Posts: 1215 Joined: 11.11.07 |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 06-12-2008 23:36
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 Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
I agree that it doesn't have an Anthomyiidae face. Katepisternal arrangement could be 1:2 (difficult to see). If I'm not wrong, the frons bears a proclinate orbital. In combination with pd on t3, and narrow genae/parafacialiae, this leaves us Thricops or Hydrotaea...I can't see any that could match to this fly... Nikita ? Stephane. |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 06-12-2008 23:52
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Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
I cannot even be Hydrotaea, since there are only 3 post dc ! Really, I think this fly is for Michael.
Stephane. |
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| Michael Ackland |
Posted on 07-12-2008 12:31
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Member Location: Dorset UK Posts: 680 Joined: 23.02.08 |
Sorry I can't really help, it could be a female anthomyiid. I would need to knoow the following: are there fine pale hairs under the tip of the scutellum?. Clear view of anal vein; dorsal setae on hind tibia; are there setulae under wing on costal vein?; is there a short setula under hind tarsus near base? None of these will show up on a general photo. Does it look like a female Azelia? I don't have any muscids anymore in my collection. |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 07-12-2008 13:55
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Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
I had thought to Azelia, looks very like indeed, but shouldn't have a pd on hind tibia. I give up.
Stephane. |
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| Christine Devillers |
Posted on 07-12-2008 21:55
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Member Location: Spa, Belgium Posts: 1215 Joined: 11.11.07 |
Thanks Stephane and Michael, and sorry but I hav'nt better photos. Perhaps if I see it again.. |
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