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Amir
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Posted on 01-12-2008 01:00
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Location: Israel
Habitat: send dunes
size: ~3mm

These flies ride a Dung beetles ( Scarabaeus sacer) on the back or the front, lags....
also they was trying to get inside the beetle borrow or wait on the outside

R these flies a kleptoparasitic?


sorry for the quality. the beetles do not like the camera
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Amir
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closeup on the flies
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Paul Beuk
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Small Sphaeroceridae. The may utilise dung colelcted by the beetle. Maybe not so much kleptoparisitsim as commensalism...

Did you collect any?
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Amir
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Posted on 01-12-2008 10:44
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I collect only photos

anyway tks
I'll try to visit in the location again to try find more beetles and these flies

Amir
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Amir
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Posted on 05-12-2008 23:26
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I found an article regarding Kleptoparasitism and Phoresy in the Diptera

In this article there is a mansion for Ceroptera rufitarsis (Sphaeroceridae) and Scarabaeus sacer (Scarabaeidae).
so we may have potential for ID or at last example for Kleptoparasitism and Phoresy behavior
http://www.fcla.e...82p179.pdf
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