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ChasMacey
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Posted on 21-05-2006 22:05
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Hi All,

Can some one assist with an Id or family for this small fly (8mm long) it was on Alliaria petiolata (Garlic Mustard) in my Garden in Southern England.

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Another angle


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Nikita Vikhrev
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Hi Chas.
It is Sylvicola (punctum?), Anisopodidae.
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I'm sorry.
1. punctata, not punctum
2. It is not S. punctata. So, Sylvicola sp.
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Thanks Nikita,

I did look in the gallery but some how did not pick out Sylvicola but I can see the likeness now.


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Hi,

Looks more like Sylvicola cinctus.

Jan Willem.
 
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Hi Jan

Thanks for that, I was wondering about Sylvicola fenestralis as I have just been reading that this and S. punctata are the two common species in England, although S.cinctus has also been recorded.

Is there a visable distinguishing feature between these two or does it require a specimen and a microscope ?

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Hi Chas,

With suggesting the name Sylvicola cinctus I may have been jumping to conclusions. Have a look at the following:

http://www.dipter...page_id=18
http://www.dipter...#post_6328

This will give you some answers.

Jan Willem
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Paul Beuk
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Gut feeling says fenestratus... but I have not checked with the key. Sorry, no time as I am almost leaving. Wink
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Posted on 22-05-2006 13:36
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Hi Jan,

Thank you for the key, it is a little technical for me as there are terms that I do not understand so it will have to wait until tonight when I get home and can spend some time checking the terms as well as the pictures against the key.


Many thanks for every ones assistance



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