Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
 Muscidae/Fanniidae
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 10-11-2008 22:17
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 Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
Unfortunately I did not caught any Tricops this year, only some photo's, but whit the dark one's, I always get a little confused... Could it be that the first fly is a Tricops and the second one a Fanniidae...? Or are they both Fanniidae.. Greatings Joke javanerkelens attached the following image:  [157.34Kb] Edited by javanerkelens on 12-11-2008 20:01 |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 10-11-2008 23:55
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9555 Joined: 24.05.05 |
1 - Muscidae 2 - Fannia Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 11-11-2008 22:13
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Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
So it is stil a Muscidae! ...Nice. (first photo) And when I look at the hind femur, I see 3 strong av near tip.....so maybe Azelia, but I wil keep it on Muscidae only, for the time being! Thanks Joke |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 12-11-2008 12:47
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9555 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Joke, at least on this question I know correct answer. N2 is not Azelia Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 12-11-2008 17:22
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Joke, at least on this question I know correct answer. N2 is not Azelia I think you mean by N2 the first photo...? Greatings Joke  |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 12-11-2008 17:29
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9555 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Sorry: N1 is not Azelia! Nikita On the other hand N2 is not Azelia too 
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 12-11-2008 19:15
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Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
On the other hand N2 is not Azelia too  |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 14-11-2008 21:49
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Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
I hope I'm not irritating  , but I get to know , that Hebecnema could be also a possibility whit those little brown flies.So I did take another look at my fly, and I saw that the parafacialia seems to be loose from the head. I have never seen a loose parafaciala......?? And when I go through the 5 species of Hebecnema, there is a mention at the H.umbratica about : parafacialia visible in lateral view and fronto orbital plates and parafacialia silvery white shining viewed from above....? Am I warm or very cold..... Joke javanerkelens attached the following image:  [82.72Kb] Edited by javanerkelens on 14-11-2008 21:52 |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 14-11-2008 22:01
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 Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
No Joke, this is not a Hebecnema. Looks like an Azeliini member but...
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