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javanerkelens
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Posted on 10-11-2008 22:17
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Unfortunately I did not caught any Tricops this year, only some photo's, but whit the dark one's, I always get a little confused...Angry
Could it be that the first fly is a Tricops and the second one a Fanniidae...?
Or are they both Fanniidae..

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1 - Muscidae
2 - Fannia
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So it is stil a Muscidae! ...Nice. (first photo)

And when I look at the hind femur, I see 3 strong av near tip.....so maybe Azelia, but I wil keep it on Muscidae only, for the time being!

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Joke, at least on this question I know correct answer.
N2 is not Azelia
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Joke, at least on this question I know correct answer.
N2 is not Azelia


I think you mean by N2 the first photo...?

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Sorry:
N1 is not Azelia!
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On the other hand N2 is not Azelia too Grin
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On the other hand N2 is not Azelia too


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I hope I'm not irritating Wink, but I get to know , that Hebecnema could be also a possibility whit those little brown flies.
So I did take another look at my fly, and I saw that the parafacialia seems to be loose from the head.
I have never seen a loose parafaciala......??

And when I go through the 5 species of Hebecnema, there is a mention at the H.umbratica about :
parafacialia visible in lateral view and fronto orbital plates and parafacialia silvery white shining viewed from above....?

Am I warm or very cold.....

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No Joke, this is not a Hebecnema. Looks like an Azeliini member but...
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