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 2x Phaonia? -> P. rufiventris and ?
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| Michael Becker |
Posted on 01-11-2008 07:23
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Member Location: Germany, Neuss Posts: 1268 Joined: 16.01.07 |
Hello, what flies are these two. I found them beginning of october in a forest region near Cologne. Length was about 8 or 9mm. Perhaps genus Phaonia? Thanks, Michael Michael Becker attached the following image:  [67.44Kb] Edited by Michael Becker on 02-11-2008 06:36 |
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| Michael Becker |
Posted on 01-11-2008 07:24
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Member Location: Germany, Neuss Posts: 1268 Joined: 16.01.07 |
Here is the 2nd. Phaonia valida?
Michael Becker attached the following image:  [105.58Kb] |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 01-11-2008 21:20
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 Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14160 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello, Michael! The first one should be a female Phaonia rufiventris. http://insektenfo...ufiventris Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Michael Becker |
Posted on 02-11-2008 06:35
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Member Location: Germany, Neuss Posts: 1268 Joined: 16.01.07 |
Thanks! |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 02-11-2008 18:39
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 Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
The second fly could be Phaonia valida indeed, but I can't really see whether the vein M is somewhat bent apically (it could be tricky on picture), whether occipital hairs are reddish in lower part... (so it could be P. errans too). 
Stephane. |
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| Michael Becker |
Posted on 03-11-2008 20:39
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Member Location: Germany, Neuss Posts: 1268 Joined: 16.01.07 |
Thank you for your answers. Phaonia valida and Phaonia errans is really tricky. Michael |
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