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 Palloptera u. and Lonchaea species
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| Klaas |
Posted on 25-10-2008 20:56
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Palloptera (perhaps P. ustulata?) and Lonchaea species together, with an package of eggs - defended by Lonchaea? On dead trunk of Populus in meadow, 18-9-2008. Klaas attached the following image:  [124.32Kb] |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 25-10-2008 21:30
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Klaas, you take some incredible photos ! I love.
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 25-10-2008 22:43
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Could be Lonchaea palposa.
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| Jan Willem |
Posted on 26-10-2008 10:25
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Great photo Klaas! It seems the lonchaeid was laying eggs while you were taking this picture. Concerning the pallopterid it could be P. ustulata or P. andersoni. It's not clear if the latter species occurs in The Netherlands.
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| Klaas |
Posted on 26-10-2008 21:14
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Thank you all. I intended to add a magnification of the head, showing the shape and size of palps, but it does not add much information. Here it is anyway, for the ones who see more than i do myself! Palps are consideribly larger that of L. fugax wich i could find in the gallery. Klaas |
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| Klaas |
Posted on 26-10-2008 21:19
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the head
Klaas attached the following image:  [112.66Kb] |
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| Iain MacGowan |
Posted on 27-10-2008 10:09
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Klaas Let me just add my admiration for your superb photography - yes there is only one Lonchaeid with these enlarged palps - Lonchaea palposa - relatively common in most of Europe and with a strong preference fro Poplars as a tree to breed in ............. Iain
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| Klaas |
Posted on 23-11-2008 16:17
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P. ustulata or P. andersoni? This is asked by Jan Willem Perhaps some additional pictures can give an answer? Palloptera dorsal Klaas attached the following image:  [146.13Kb] |
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| Klaas |
Posted on 23-11-2008 16:19
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Palloptera Lateral
Klaas attached the following image:  [125.7Kb] |
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| Klaas |
Posted on 23-11-2008 16:21
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Palloptera Ovipositor
Klaas attached the following image:  [108.32Kb] |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 24-11-2008 09:45
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Gallery!
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| Jan Willem |
Posted on 30-11-2008 13:11
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Hi Klaas, Do you remember at what time of day you found the ovipositing pallopterid? Jan Willem van Zuijlen |
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| Klaas |
Posted on 30-11-2008 18:40
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According shootingproperties 16:37:09, so it was late in afternoon. Klaas |
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| Jan Willem |
Posted on 01-12-2008 13:00
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Thanks Klaas, I was asking this because many pallopterids are said to be active around dusk. Well, 16:37:09, I suppose it was not late enough yet to be getting dark. Jan Willem van Zuijlen |
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